Giro d'Italia Giro d’Italia 2025: Post-Race Rating Poll

[Red Rick]

I think it's only natural that expectations and judgments have changed after what he's been through and what he's been capable of doing in GTs since his accident, but many people are probably also hoping that this isn't it and that he'll continue to progress.

In absolute terms, he's better than pre crash, so that's I don't really think that's hampering him. Like he was top 10 in 6 stage races before the TdF last year, some with a better field than this Giro. Then he was stupidly overraced at the Tour.

In reality he just hasn't improved as much with the times as other riders, which I think happened to plenty other riders.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

In absolute terms, he's better than pre crash, so that's I don't really think that's hampering him. Like he was top 10 in 6 stage races before the TdF last year, some with a better field than this Giro. Then he was stupidly overraced at the Tour.

In reality he just hasn't improved as much with the times as other riders, which I think happened to plenty other riders.

I still, at least for now, assume he too would have been able to improve more without the accident. Since he never was an alien in the first place, I also doubt he'd have been at the very top nowadays, but I can't see why he shouldn't have been able to fight for podiums or maybe even the win in a GT where the very best riders aren't present or crash out.

 

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I don't think that I've ever looked at my points. What do they even mean? Several above have 28,180, I'm mad that they have more than me!

 

[Gigs_98]

The ones seperated by an empty line are differences that are just indisputable in my mind, the ones clustered together I might be swayed one way or another.

2016

2018
2017

2020
2019
2021
2025
2022

2023

2024

I'm pretty sure that if you were a Froome fan instead of a Nibali fan you would have 2016 and 2018 in the reverse order. With all the talk about the 2011 TdF, the 2016 Giro was the true Italian equivalent, where nothing happened before stage 14 but the race afterwards was unbelievable. 2018 was a really good race throughout.

Also, I just think recency bias works the other way around with you because after a while you've forgotten all things you disliked about a race so you rate it higher.

 

[Red Rick]

I'm pretty sure that if you were a Froome fan instead of a Nibali fan you would have 2016 and 2018 in the reverse order. With all the talk about the 2011 TdF, the 2016 Giro was the true Italian equivalent, where nothing happened before stage 14 but the race afterwards was unbelievable. 2018 was a really good race throughout.

Also, I just think recency bias works the other way around with you because after a while you've forgotten all things you disliked about a race so you rate it higher.

I'm not gonna deny I'm a wee little biased cause I was there in Apeldoorn drunkenly writing songs for Tom Dumoulin and all that stuff.

But I also think the 2018 Giro wasn't that great before Zoncolan - barely any Giro is, and its reputation relies a bit too heavily on the Finestre stage, which was the most batshit individual stage I have seen. But similarly, I think 2016 is too heavily remembered for the Kruijswijk crash and madness of stages like Andalo and Corvara are easily undersold a bit.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

In absolute terms, he's better than pre crash, so that's I don't really think that's hampering him.

By absolute terms you mean w/kg ? It makes no sense to compare it due to a huge jump of performance between 2019 and 2025 (clinic). Therefore it's hard to say how many % of his pre-crash version he utilizes now. Can be less than 100%.