Hamilton's Comments on Ferrari

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pmcg76 said:
That was because he didnt listen to Ferrari in regards to new tests I think, would need to check back thru the Kimmage-Landis interview.
i think texas was a good ferrari student.

but it was not about the new epo tests per se but about the epo doses, frequency of administration etc, ...iow, the schedule that would allow to fly under the radar. welcome to microdosing circa 2000 - the cutting edge blood doping at that time. just about when the epo test was becoming a reality.

i think texas vanity and arrogance has lead him to overdosing beyond the recommended amounts b/c out of competition testing was practically non-exixtent then.
 
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suedhead:

Initially Ferrari worked with Prof. Francesco Conconi in Ferrara, who developed testing techniques for human performance, using methods such as monitoring the heart rate during exercise and recovery. Another controversial Italian doctor, Luigi Cecchini, is their common disciple. They have shared the care for some cyclists throughout their careers

chechini and ferrari are intertwined. competitive with eachother

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but start with the Donati File for the true beginning. Conconi's perverse work. link below

the fraud behind the stage

mods: if this is inappropriately posted blow it away.

paging doctor Ferrari Article
 
Apr 9, 2011
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VeloCity said:
I've posted this elsewhere before, but I think this quote from Squinzi, the Mapei CEO who banned his riders from working with Ferrari, pretty much sums up the general opinion of Ferrari:

"I think he [Ferrari] is one of the most knowledgeable and best trainers in cycling, but I also think he is a person who operates without any moral restrictions whatsoever."

In other words, no reason that Ferrari couldn't be both - a brilliant trainer and at the same time a doping doc. Almost certainly it was that combination that made him so sought after. So not really surprising that Hamilton would sing Ferrari's praises as a trainer - he probably was a great trainer. Just happened that the training also involved the use of PEDs.

Exactly the guy has been shown to be a training guru, both cycling and football/soccer but uses PEDS as part of the program.

He claims it is for the athletes health - hamilton used this exact line in the 60 min interview.

A Dr told me I should take these PEDS for my health the sport is too hard. Something like that.
 
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I think it is wrong to purely characterise Ferrari as a haematologist. He and Conconi collaborated on a number of publications in the 80s on sports physiology, determinig anaerobic threshold etc. It would be fair to say that even in those early days he had an interest in monitoring physiological parameters in training to optimise performance. Interestingly they wrote a paper on declining Hb levels in cyclists during the competitive season. At some stage they switched from measuring to manipulation. Amusingly they were also involved on a study of blood storage in surgery.

Conconi's history is particularly disturbing as by all accounts he used funds provided for the development of an EPO test by the Italian Olympic committee to run a doping program. Unbeleivably he basically escaped scot free and continues to appear on publications in sports science.

I take describing Ferrari as a genius with a pinch of salt, it's all relative. The pool of doctors prepared to go into doping in such a full on way must be fairly limited. Amongst a small group he may well be the best. Certainly he has a lot of experience in the sporting field and especially from his work with Conconi would have a lot of expertise with EPO and its effects. Ferrari's customers don't so much get the benefits of his 'genius' but of his many years of experience. It is the same in any field.