Has the worm turned? Complicit media.

[BotanyBay]

This is what media does. Build up the myth to stay in business, then destroy the myth to stay in business.

It should come as no surprise that Versus is on the story. While they are tearing the Armstrong myth down, they are searching for another personality to build up. Mini Phinney comes to mind....

If Wonderboy confronts anyone on the media side he'll get the same response, "It's nothing personal."

The icing on the cake for me is for Tailwind principals convicted of Federal felonies with prison time.

Pie in the sky would be Tailwind felonies AND Pat and Hein prosecutions for something and getting LeMond in the UCI to take over. There was a guy running ASO/Le Tour that was aggressively anti-dope. If not LeMond, then that guy.

I can't wait to see the "traitor to fair play" indicted. Mark Gorski.

 

[sniper]

The worm has most definitely turned. I can't emphacize enough how important the publication of that Sports Illustrated article. Sports Illustrated is by far the most respected and widely read sports magazine in the US. It primarily covers the 2 biggest American sports: NFL and MLB. It's then got a smattering of NHL, NBA, and NCAA college fooball now and then. The point being it's an extremely mainstream article read by your stereotypical American sports fan who follows the big American sports, and this article will damage Armstrong's reputation mortally among the American sports fan public. Essentially this article alone will give Lance the Barry Bonds treatment, his reputation in the US is now irreparably destroyed even in Novitzsky were to drop the investigation completely. And I don't see that happening.

+1
I don't quite understand either why several posters keep on playing down the importance of the article.
to most sane people, pieces of the puzzle are merely falling together, and Novitzky will bring us the final episode withing a couple of weeks from now.
The scam that people with a minimum think-capacity have been aware of is now seeing the light of day, nothing more nothing less.
Everybody with a minimum of common sense (among whom the majority of posters in the CLINIC) has seen this one coming.
Though that doesn't diminish the pleasure of witnessing how the **** is hitting the fan.

A Big Bang (Balco Size) is upon us. There'll be cycling "before" and a cycling "after".

 

[MacRoadie]

Exactely. They need tools to survive.

Well, they found a perfect "tool" in lance...

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

This starts a battle between different publications looking to have a scoop and reveal new information that for many of the general American public will seem new and shocking.

This will be the best part.....there will be a feeding frenzy.

Even Nike might reconsider their endorsement, although they will only drop you if they stop making any money, regardless of how bad what you did is.

Once sponsors start dropping off then consumers will know something stinks.

 

[MarkvW]

Just building cred.

The most relevant part of your comment is the "junior member" next to your username.

yawn.

Never mind, I'm just posting to build cred toward my inexorable march toward "global overlord member."

Then you won't be yawning!

 

[MarkvW]

wsj respectability

Absolutely - people will automatically assume when Lance insisted he never ever took PEDs that he was talking before 2000 and before he started amassing his Tour win's.
Ya, I am sure that's how it will go.

I'm not prepared to concede that the WSJ is any more respectable than any other Murdoch publication. I expect a decline in quality when a media outlet is acquired by Murdoch, and I haven't been disappointed yet.

 

[Anonymous]

The tide is turning.

What I find interesting though, is that on CYclingNews for instance, they have started reporting more and more the lance allegations, and we are seeing the radioshack and nike ads replaced by rather desperate looking google ads.

Whether its just that google brings in more revenue or something darker is the question.

 

[spetsa]

Credibility? FU MW

The most relevant part of your comment is the "junior member" next to your username.

yawn.

Only 413 more for me and I guess I will be as cool as you. People like you are the reason that many abstain from what could be meaningfull dialogue.

 

[BikeCentric]

Only 413 more for me and I guess I will be as cool as you. People like you are the reason that many abstain from what could be meaningfull dialogue.

Well step up to the plate and post something meaningful then; the guy you are bickering with has been posting interesting stuff for like 2 years. If you want credibility you can create it for yourself, it's not hard.

 

[El Oso]

There'll be cycling "before" and a cycling "after".

While I really hope you're right, they said the same thing in 1998.

 

[BotanyBay]

I'm not prepared to concede that the WSJ is any more respectable than any other Murdoch publication. I expect a decline in quality when a media outlet is acquired by Murdoch, and I haven't been disappointed yet.

No big deal. Boston's not a very big college town anyway.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I often do twitter keyword searches to see how people react to things. For some time now, seeing a LS yellow twibbon (sorry, folks) over someone's profile pic doesn't mean they're pro-Lance.

Can you follow-up with this in a week or two? If/when FDA charges drop will be another good time to see what the effects are.

 

[red_flanders]

I'm not prepared to concede that the WSJ is any more respectable than any other Murdoch publication. I expect a decline in quality when a media outlet is acquired by Murdoch, and I haven't been disappointed yet.

Do you have any comments on the substance of the allegations?

I just ask because shooting the messenger isn't convincing me of much, and sort of re-inforces my view that there are no arguments to the substance of the allegations. However, I'd be interested to hear such arguments should they come up.

 

[MacRoadie]

Do you have any comments on the substance of the allegations?

I just ask because shooting the messenger isn't convincing me of much, and sort of re-inforces my view that there are no arguments to the substance of the allegations. However, I'd be interested to hear such arguments should they come up.

I'm very curious to hear what some of these lumpkins WOULD consider a reputable news source, aside from VeloNews and The Austin Statesman...

 

[blackcat]

Many of whom enjoyed said hookers and blow on the Livestrong dime. They weren't going to say anything. Just keep the party line.

did they throw Viagra into the pot for Phil and Paul?

 

[blackcat]

I'm very curious to hear what some of these lumpkins WOULD consider a reputable news source, aside from VeloNews and The Austin Statesman...

National Enquirer? they are down low on the Olsen twins?

 

[Runitout]

I'll know the worm has turned when Tomalaris and his ilk finally grow a pair.

 

[Bronstein]

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Oldman]

I think the climate has been changing slowly, maybe more noticeable in the US than this side of the pond, for getting on for a year now. I myself have witnessed former Armstrong fans beginning to come to terms with what now almost seems an inevitability. I think you're right in so far as the media organisations are concerned. I do believe the legal boys are getting a little less twitchy these days and we'll probably see more headline media channels covering this story more explicitly.

The forum Clinic started getting active before that period and the flow of rumor and facts were hard for the media to ignore. Serious journalists that had explored this information were finally going to get an opportunity to print what they'd uncovered and, as you rightly note; the legal depts let them loose. This is the stormy tide that the publicity hungry hate but many in the US have managed to weather.

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

Not impressed with the versus article.

The article goes on to say that Armstrong's testosterone-epitestosterone ratio was abnormally high on several occasions, and that Stephen Swart, who rode with Armstrong for Motorola in 2005, was "the instigator" for his team members using the banned blood booster EPO

They should retract and apologize.

 

[Nick777]

No big deal. Boston's not a very big college town anyway.

These ones go to 11.