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I like this Howman guy

Not saying that I wasn't entertained in years past by the antics of **** Pound and his uhhhh... "enthusiasm" for eradicating doping. However, Howman has caught my attention as someone who seems to say mostly the right things most of the time, which is a lot more than we've had from just about everyone else connected to pro cycling for some time. Doesn't seem to be afraid to go on the record about any topic, while knowing where to draw the line about indicating any extraordinary treatment of any athlete or situation - whether that is negative or positive attention.

I could see a guy like Howman being very useful in the big chair at the UCI. Probably doesn't know a ton about the inner workings of the cycling community, but in this critical time of transition during which there seems to be genuine awareness, concern, and action on PEDs from many fronts, it occurs to me that steering the ship on this course for a few years could be more important in the long run than the pure sporting aspects.

Beat back the forest fires for a few years with a concerted push on the doping, and then hand the reins back over to someone more in tune with the technical aspects, connections, etc.

Dare to dream. :eek:
 
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Weapons of @ss Destruction said:
Not saying that I wasn't entertained in years past by the antics of **** Pound and his uhhhh... "enthusiasm" for eradicating doping. However, Howman has caught my attention as someone who seems to say mostly the right things most of the time, which is a lot more than we've had from just about everyone else connected to pro cycling for some time. Doesn't seem to be afraid to go on the record about any topic, while knowing where to draw the line about indicating any extraordinary treatment of any athlete or situation - whether that is negative or positive attention.

I could see a guy like Howman being very useful in the big chair at the UCI. Probably doesn't know a ton about the inner workings of the cycling community, but in this critical time of transition during which there seems to be genuine awareness, concern, and action on PEDs from many fronts, it occurs to me that steering the ship on this course for a few years could be more important in the long run than the pure sporting aspects.

Howman is all p!!! and wind he only says what sounds good for the media Pound was same. All Howman wants is money from Governments to kep him and others in the life style they have free trips around the globe free dinners you name it.
Stick to the Job and deal with what he finds with testing and let the rest get on with it all he wants is Media coverage.

If they clean up doping then he will be out of a job.
 
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brianf7 said:
Howman is all p!!! and wind he only says what sounds good for the media Pound was same. All Howman wants is money from Governments to kep him and others in the life style they have free trips around the globe free dinners you name it.
Stick to the Job and deal with what he finds with testing and let the rest get on with it all he wants is Media coverage.

If they clean up doping then he will be out of a job.

The reward for a job well done is usually another job. If he is even partially successful at cleaning up sports, he will have plenty of appealing offers to choose from, if he doesn't choose to retire after WADA.

At least you acknowledge his ability to say what is appropriate to the media. IMO, this demonstrates a level of competence that is incomparably superior to the clowns at the UCI.

This might be a contentious point but I also think the fact that Howman is a kiwi gives WADA the best possible chance that he will actively and effectively oppose corruption. In the past, I've not set much store by country corruption ratings, but spending time on CN has caused me to review that opinion. In particular, the level of acceptance of conflicts of interest within the charities sector was a real culture shock. YMMV
 
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I Watch Cycling In July said:
The reward for a job well done is usually another job. If he is even partially successful at cleaning up sports, he will have plenty of appealing offers to choose from, if he doesn't choose to retire after WADA.

At least you acknowledge his ability to say what is appropriate to the media. IMO, this demonstrates a level of competence that is incomparably superior to the clowns at the UCI.

This might be a contentious point but I also think the fact that Howman is a kiwi gives WADA the best possible chance that he will actively and effectively oppose corruption. In the past, I've not set much store by country corruption ratings, but spending time on CN has caused me to review that opinion. In particular, the level of acceptance of conflicts of interest within the charities sector was a real culture shock. YMMV

Amen brother. I reckon it's really hard to get away with bad behaviour in NZ on account that everyone knows everyone else (nearly) as well as having a very aggressive press.
It's an honour for me to live here.
+1 for Howman.
 
brianf7 said:
All Howman wants is money from Governments

You say this as if it's a bad thing. So long as the funding isn't going toward this;

brianf7 said:
to kep him and others in the life style they have free trips around the globe free dinners you name it.

Then Howman is a white hat as far as I'm concerned. Any information that he's feeding at the trough as you imply above, or is this simply undirected ranting?

I seem to recall some of the previous high-profile cases (Landis, etc.) severely taxing WADA's financial resources. No doubt Contador's case will do the same. I'd love to see a progressive "tax" on rider salaries going toward WADA funding specifically earmarked for use in cycling cases, up to a pre-defined contingency threshold. Big fish riders with high salaries pay progressively higher % into the contigency fund, which IMHO is fair since it's this group of top tier riders who are collectively causing the biggest strain on WADA.

Funding keeps getting drained, riders keep paying in to restore minimum contingency level. Bet you'd see some cracks in omerta then. ;)

Sort of like the UCI's attempted punitive salary grab for sanctioned dopers 'cept the money goes proactively to those who will apply it back directly to the problem at hand instead of pocketing it to use for god knows whatever purpose.

That's part deux of Dare to Dream for today. :eek:
 
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Howman has been in the job since the 2006 WADA convention so he has had a long time in the job.!!!!?
only now that Pound was proceded by John Fhey the former premier on New South Wales is he trying to make a name for himself. Fhey already has a name for him self as a politician.
Head down bums up and get on with the job and stop trying to make brownie points. When it is compleet we will listen to him how good he is.
there is no such thing as a free dinner so if the money is spent on where it should be there shouldnt be any left for social gatherings and fringe benifits. our Governments are paying them from our taxes.
 
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brianf7 said:
Weapons of @ss Destruction said:
If they clean up doping then he will be out of a job.

Absolutely not true. Once any sport is "cleaned up" as you say, there will be a tremendous advantage and financial gain for anyone who dopes, since, according to you, everyone else is racing clean. Therefore, the deterrent effect for doping by aggressive testing would even be more necessary, not less.
 
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Absolutely not true. Once any sport is "cleaned up" as you say, there will be a tremendous advantage and financial gain for anyone who dopes, since, according to you, everyone else is racing clean. Therefore, the deterrent effect for doping by aggressive testing would even be more necessary, not less.

Just thought it was important to note that you have misquoted me in your post. The text you quoted was from another poster.