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williamp78

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Richeypen said:
He was 100 metres away from winning gent wevelgem, 3rd in KBK and 4th in Paris Tours. No big results yet but a lot of promise
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And don't forget that he was acting as a domestic for most of yesterday too. (Not sure about these other placings)

I think he has a lot of potential as a team leader in some one day races. However perhaps you need more than potential for Flanders and Roubaix
 
Richeypen

Richeypen

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maltiv said:
EBH has won Gent-Wevelgem though.

Stannard should be the leader for P-R, but G and EBH are better bets for the other classics imo.
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As has previously been said for the Cobbles you need a lot of options. For P-R get the likes of Rasch, Hayman or Eisel in the early break and let the rest of the team keep their powder dry. They have a lot of guys who could do something.
 
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JimmyFingers

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Richeypen said:
As has previously been said for the Cobbles you need a lot of options. For P-R get the likes of Rasch, Hayman or Eisel in the early break and let the rest of the team keep their powder dry. They have a lot of guys who could do something.
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This. When Thomas went down and EBH got shelled it looked all over for Sky. At the time I joked they'd have to go to Plan C....Cavendish. But instead Stannard went for the ride of the day and might have won if he hadn't worked so hard earlier in the race. You need multiple solutions to multiple scenarios and Sky show they certainly have the makings of that, although it's a long way shy of the finished article.

To me Thomas is still their best chance of winning something significant in the classics, but Stannard, if he in unleashed like yesterday, may get another chance. I doubt he will be left unmarked now though
 
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JimmyFingers said:
You need multiple solutions to multiple scenarios
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Yeah, but your first scenario should be going with the guy who can actually WIN the race. Look at BMC in the Tour of Flanders 2011. They were with 7 guys up in front at the bottom of the Muur (They would've been complete if Kroon didn't fall just before the Oude Kwaremont) but in the end they had only Hincapie finishing 6th. A good team with mutiple top-guys is great but if you have no one that can actually win it, then you don't have much
 
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Richeypen

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Roderick said:
Almost 75% of the peloton was only 100 meters away from a big victory once. Being close doesn't count. KBK was something special due to the extreme weather. And he did get beaten by Traksel and Flens, not really the biggest names of the current peloton to say the least. P-T 2011 is probably the race with the weakest field of contestants of the last 10 years.
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What a pathetic comment. Everyone has to win their first big race at somepoint. And dismissing all his good results for some reason or another just smacks of being a hater. No one is saying he will win multiple monuments, people are just pointing out that a day after he was the strongest guy in one of the biggest races of the year he should be considered an outside bet for a big result in his favoured events.
 
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Roderick

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Richeypen said:
What a pathetic comment. Everyone has to win their first big race at somepoint. And dismissing all his good results for some reason or another just smacks of being a hater. No one is saying he will win multiple monuments, people are just pointing out that a day after he was the strongest guy in one of the biggest races of the year he should be considered an outside bet for a big result in his favoured events.
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I'm not in any way a Stannard-hater. I'm just pointing out that his good results prior to this M-SR, actually weren't that good. Ofcourse he's a strong rider and he is a pretty good dom. Don't think that there is any team that would not what him in their team for RvV and P-R as a superdom. It's not even impossible that he ends up on the podium or even win one if it's a strange or tactical race. (Van Summeren in p-r 2011, Knaven in P-r 2001, RvV 2001 and 2004 were also strange races) But making him the team leader for these races would be a mistake since he is not really a winners-type. And that's quite a euphemism
 
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del1962

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JimmyFingers said:
This. When Thomas went down and EBH got shelled it looked all over for Sky. At the time I joked they'd have to go to Plan C....Cavendish. But instead Stannard went for the ride of the day and might have won if he hadn't worked so hard earlier in the race. You need multiple solutions to multiple scenarios and Sky show they certainly have the makings of that, although it's a long way shy of the finished article.

To me Thomas is still their best chance of winning something significant in the classics, but Stannard, if he in unleashed like yesterday, may get another chance. I doubt he will be left unmarked now though
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He may have been left unmarked, but surely Chavanel would have been marked, so I don't think being unmarked had any effect yesterday.
 
Don't be late Pedro

Don't be late Pedro

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Roderick said:
I'm not in any way a Stannard-hater. I'm just pointing out that his good results prior to this M-SR, actually weren't that good. Ofcourse he's a strong rider and he is a pretty good dom. Don't think that there is any team that would not what him in their team for RvV and P-R as a superdom. It's not even impossible that he ends up on the podium or even win one if it's a strange or tactical race. (Van Summeren in p-r 2011, Knaven in P-r 2001, RvV 2001 and 2004 were also strange races) But making him the team leader for these races would be a mistake since he is not really a winners-type. And that's quite a euphemism
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That would be one hell of a euphemism... Not sure that word means what you think it does.
 
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He has been ill, hopefully getting back to full strength. But I think Thomas looks like the strongest of Sky's contenders.

Still with spirit like Stannard's you can never rule him out properly.
 
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Gloin22

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postmanhat said:
Stannard dropped again fairly early on. Apparently recovered from his illness :(
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Disappointing for him definitely, the whole campaign was quite disastrous for Sky to say the least.
 
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He was there!

and then he wasnt...

What a big bag of fail from the Sky Classics team. I think we can guarantee the other teams will keep to practising on rubbishy old lowland cobbles in the cold, rather than up a mountain in the warm :rolleyes:
 
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Jelantik

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Winterfold said:
He was there!

and then he wasnt...

What a big bag of fail from the Sky Classics team. I think we can guarantee the other teams will keep to practising on rubbishy old lowland cobbles in the cold, rather than up a mountain in the warm :rolleyes:
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I guess sky's science method forgot to calculate that training in warm weather and race in under freezing cold don't add up. :D. Maybe their next step for next year is training in North Pole to acclimate with the freezing weather of belgium
 
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El Pistolero

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jens_attacks said:
what a failure of the whole squad...jezuz
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They just don't have the names to compete in these classics. Maybe in the hilly classics with Porte, Froome, Wiggins, Henao, etc
 
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El Pistolero said:
They just don't have the names to compete in these classics. Maybe in the hilly classics with Porte, Froome, Wiggins, Henao, etc
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Thats not the Classics squad though is it - thats the stage race and GT squad(s) :D

They should do something in LBL, if they send Wiggo, Henao, Uran , Froome and dont get a podium minimum it will be a similar amount of fail
 
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