http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/italian-federation-confirms-ban-on-all-riders-with-doping-pasts
Will we see riders taking their federation to CAS?
Will we see riders taking their federation to CAS?
boomcie said:Italy really seems to take the whole doping thing very serious. The CONI goes after it's own cyclists as well as after Valverde and now the federation also shows it's balls.
I respect it, but it's going to be pretty controversial.
icefire said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/italian-federation-confirms-ban-on-all-riders-with-doping-pasts
Will we see riders taking their federation to CAS?
la.margna said:Let's hope other countries join Italy. Really seems they are one of the few countries rigorously fighting doping/cheating. Keep up the good work Italy!
TERMINATOR said:No, you won't (if they do they will get tossed out because there's no legal grounds for it).
I could take this new rule more seriously if Paolo Bettini weren't the MANAGER of the Italian national team, since he's one of the biggest dopers in the history of the sport. And anyone who doesn't know that already probably thinks Pantani never doped either since he never tested positive, just like Bettini.
I notice it doesn't mention anything about being precluded from representing Italy on the Olympic team though. What am I suppose to read into that?... That these riders are so bad and have done such a bad thing, that Italy is going to allow them to represent the country on the world stage during the Olympic Games?
I'm skeptical.
There's probably a provision in the rule saying that exceptions can be granted if the athlete shows "remorse" or "cooperation." Italy is one of those countries that prosecutors everyone...but then they always give these "suspended" jail sentences, which is a legal way of saying, no jail....except to our girl Foxy Knoxy, who everyone knows is innocenté. How many college girls in the United States stab their female roommate to death for not engaging in a threesome? Does that theory pass the laugh test?
Not a single such case in the United States in the past 30 years of something similar...yet I'm suppose to believe that this girl Amanda Fox did that. And this girl acts like a silly floozy college chick...she's not even hardcore. Chick doesn't even have a tramp stamp on her back. No way she cut that chick.
ElChingon said:If all countries apply it the world champion that year won't even be on a ProTour team.
I suspect after a couple years of not even placing the Azzuri fans will make CONI change that rule to something that will give them a chance at placing.
rhubroma said:Italy is a Catholic country, therefore, the possibility of redemption is emphasized over punishment.
rhubroma said:In any event, if Italy is making a show of force, hypocritical though it may be, then what are the other nations really doing? Your caustic position, so typical from you, would be perfectly justifiable if but what your country was doing were anything better.
TERMINATOR said:I notice it doesn't mention anything about being precluded from representing Italy on the Olympic team though. What am I suppose to read into that?... That these riders are so bad and have done such a bad thing, that Italy is going to allow them to represent the country on the world stage during the Olympic Games?
I'm skeptical.
rhubroma said:As far as the "Foxy Knoxy" story goes the "Little House on the Prarie" farytail was not a consideration in the case. But can we really admire, and I don't even know if she is guilty or not, all the US propaganda when there was an OJ verdict, or a Guantanamo, or Marine pilot Capt. Richard Ashby striking the Mount Cermis ski lift near Cavalese, Italy?
AussieGoddess said:if they cant ride in the National Championships ... how are they going to be selected for the Olympic team
I understand that different countries have different selection methods, but surely you would need to do well in the national road race or time trial in order to be selected for the team?
rhubroma said:As far as the "Foxy Knoxy" story goes the "Little House on the Prarie" farytail was not a consideration in the case. But can we really admire, and I don't even know if she is guilty or not...
TERMINATOR said:Any country that integrates religion into its judicial philosophy is seriously messed up.
While your little redemption theme sounds noble in the way you presented it, why don't you let us know how a homosexual would feel being tried in Italy since the very same Catholic religion says gays should be killed.
Thanks.
TERMINATOR said:USADA prosecutes everyone. Floyd Landis...Tyler Hamilton...next is Lance Armstrong.
CONI prosecutes DiLuca three times and after the third time still won't give the guy a 2 year ban! DiLuca should have been given a life suspension.
Garzelli is still racing. Pantani was NEVER prosecuted. Cipollini was never prosecuted. Bettini was never prosecuted. C'mon.
The only decent prosecutions by CONI were Rebellin, Pettachi, and Valverde (non-Guido).
Also, CONI almost never does unannounced doping tests like USADA does to its licensed athletes. That's the biggest scam in all countries outside of the United States - they rarely give unannounced tests.
USADA has the only website in the world to post the number of tests and athlete names tested on a public website. That's transparency! Name one other anti-doping agency that does that? ZERO. None. They're all frauds.
If all the other anti-doping agencies posted the number of athletes they tested every year and who was tested, you'd find that USADA tests many more athletes - by a factor of 10. But such a comparison is impossible because all the other agencies don't even disclose that information in order to keep their little corruption a secret.
You seem to be fooled by press releases from these agencies.
Mrs John Murphy said:I am not so sure. The Italian team selection has always been problematic and very political.
This is a good way of weeding out the field, and making it a lot easier to pick the team.
You lose Basso, Scarponi, Petacchi, Ballan, Sella, DDL, Garzelli etc
But you retain - Nibs, Cunego, Bennati, Ferrari, Guardini, Pozzato, Visconti, etc etc (ha ha)
I don't think that the Italian team loses too much by losing some of those riders. It makes it slightly easier as well to pick the team.
It is more of a symbolic issue and a way of putting blue water between those feds that are tough on doping and those that are not.
TERMINATOR said:If you guys don't want us dropping your cable cars to the valley floor with a wing slice, then don't let U.S. military operate flights in your country. So blame that one on whoever in Italy allowed U.S. Marines to operate in that region (from a NATO base). Notice how we don't let Italian planes fly here in the U.S..... that's why our cable cars stay attached to the cable.
TERMINATOR said:Do you really think that girl cut her friend's throat with a knife because she wouldn't have a threesome? Does that really sound like something a college chick would do?
Sorry about Versace.