Italians plan to ban dopers from the Nationals.

[Anonymous]

Top marks once again to the Italians, the one country that really seems to be trying to crack down on doping.

Wonder if any other countries will follow suit.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/riders-with-doping-histories-to-be-barred-from-italian-championships

 

[euanli]

Will they or do they plan to do the same with the Worlds? Olympics?

 

[GreasyMonkey]

Top marks once again to the Italians, the one country that really seems to be trying to crack down on doping.

Wonder if any other countries will follow suit.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/riders-with-doping-histories-to-be-barred-from-italian-championships

+1

Interesting move, let's see what impact it may have.

 

[rzombie1988]

I like this idea. It's a good step in the right direction.

 

[VeloCity]

A bit unfair to bar riders who got caught and have already served their time - I don't like DiLuca or Scarponi (for eg) any more than any one else, but they paid their price, let them ride.

They're going to look awfully silly if a Ballan or a Cungeo or a Bruseghin wins.

 

[Polish]

Need to take it a step further and revoke the titles from dopers.

It was a joke - no a travesty - when Simeoni won in 2008.
Sorry, but please take that title away toot sweet.

Of course, Fausto would keep his Italian TriColors.
Don't want this anti-doping hysteria crusade to become stupid lol.
Besides, he never tested positive. Its true.

 

[El Pistolero]

Top marks once again to the Italians, the one country that really seems to be trying to crack down on doping.

Wonder if any other countries will follow suit.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/riders-with-doping-histories-to-be-barred-from-italian-championships

Top marks from a country that doesn't have a single big name cyclist without big doping issues! Ok, Nibali and Pozzato(if you can call that a big name these days)

What a clean country. These nationals will end up being contested by no one. Could be funny. And why not do the same for the Worlds and Olympics? Oh right, Italian nationals will always be won by Italians, so it doesn't matter if they throw out the big names. As long as they can ride the worlds

 

[Chuffy]

Top marks from a country that doesn't have a single big name cyclist without big doping issues! Ok, Nibali and Pozzato(if you can call that a big name these days)

What a clean country. These nationals will end up being contested by no one. Could be funny. And why not do the same for the Worlds and Olympics? Oh right, Italian nationals will always be won by Italians, so it doesn't matter if they throw out the big names. As long as they can ride the worlds

Put the Italian Fed in charge of these and perhaps they might.

 

[euanli]

Its up to the national federations who they enter for the worlds and olympics.

However in the case of GB, the BCF allows David Millar to enter the Worlds but the British Olympics federation does not allow him to ride in the Olympics because they will not allow convicted dopers to compete.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Wish I had Italian citizenship. I might have won this thing.

 

[TERMINATOR]

Its up to the national federations who they enter for the worlds and olympics.

However in the case of GB, the BCF allows David Millar to enter the Worlds but the British Olympics federation does not allow him to ride in the Olympics because they will not allow convicted dopers to compete.

IOC Rule 45 bars from participation in the next Olympics any athlete who received a doping sanction of greater than 6 months.

 

[Anonymous]

Top marks from a country that doesn't have a single big name cyclist without big doping issues! Ok, Nibali and Pozzato(if you can call that a big name these days)

What a clean country. These nationals will end up being contested by no one. Could be funny. And why not do the same for the Worlds and Olympics? Oh right, Italian nationals will always be won by Italians, so it doesn't matter if they throw out the big names. As long as they can ride the worlds

The point is, they are trying. How often do you see other countries doing police raids, busting drug rings, attempting to prosecute riders and doctors. Its like Italy is the only country with a problem and therefore the only one that needs to make an effort.

Personally, anything that dissuedes riders from doping is a good thing.

Wish I had Italian citizenship. I might have won this thing.

We are thinking of moving to Spain in case they bring in the same rule.

 

[riobonito92]

Wish I had Italian citizenship. I might have won this thing.

I'm sure it can be arranged.

 

[Willy_Voet]

The point is, they are trying. How often do you see other countries doing police raids, busting drug rings, attempting to prosecute riders and doctors. Its like Italy is the only country with a problem and therefore the only one that needs to make an effort.

Personally, anything that dissuedes riders from doping is a good thing.

We are thinking of moving to Spain in case they bring in the same rule.

France and Germany receive some marks in my book for their efforts. Maybe a C+ and C, but that's better than Spain's F.

 

[hrotha]

France and Germany receive some marks in my book for their efforts. Maybe a C+ and C, but that's better than Spain's F.

I'll let you know building up a reputation like the one we have takes real effort, too.

 

[Willy_Voet]

I'll let you know building up a reputation like the one we have takes real effort, too.

Who is the 'we' you are referring, too? Are you in Spain?

 

[Andy99]

Excellent. Lets hope some other federations will have the guts to follow suit.

 

[luckyboy]

France and Germany receive some marks in my book for their efforts. Maybe a C+ and C, but that's better than Spain's F.

France would get a better mark than that surely. Weren't they the first to bring in laws against doping?

Agree with Dim about Italy though.

 

[bianchigirl]

The French basically pioneered the bio passport when they introduced quarterly unilateral health checks post Festina and have very few riders treated as suspicious as opposed to the Italians But credit to both

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

Nice move by the Italians. In principle, the idea of permanently baning those busted from a select few big events, might be quite useful in striking a balance between life sanctions and the right to employment.

I can't help thinking it would be more effective if riders who have been sanctioned were obliged to attend, but not allowed to race. Not practical of course, because of the likelihood of them being exposed to cruel and unwarranted harassment. But somehow the peloton has to be persuaded to see that the doping culture and omerta is absolutely not in their interests.

I do wonder if what we are seeing here is the start of a separate competitions for "clean" amateur dopers and blatant pro dopers though.

 

[brianf7]

National Championship is open to everyone in that countery if not its not a championship. its that simple.
In the Australian open championship there are a lot of club riders who enter. most dont last long but some do.

 

[rata de sentina]

A bit unfair to bar riders who got caught and have already served their time - I don't like DiLuca or Scarponi (for eg) any more than any one else, but they paid their price, let them ride.

They're going to look awfully silly if a Ballan or a Cungeo or a Bruseghin wins.

You have to draw the line somewhere but as a statement of principle it is to be welcomed.

 

[mtb Dad]

I think there should be a rule that if you have had a history of ineffective action against doping, you should not be allowed to run in UCI elections.

Why should only the riders have to suffer?

 

[hrotha]

Who is the 'we' you are referring, too? Are you in Spain?

Yeah, I'm Spanish.
Oh well, there goes the joke.

 

[movingtarget]

Lots of good riders don't even ride the nationals so I dunno how effective it would be. The Italians are playing catch up compared to other countries.