J-Rod

[oldcrank]

Looked a little too easy for him to ride away from the biggest doper in the race.

 

[the big ring]

Looked a little too easy for him to ride away from the biggest doper in the
peleton.

Even CN say he's charging: http://www.cyclingnews.com/vuelta-a-espana/stage-6/results

Rodriguez easily charged ahead of his British rival on the closing sprint, outdistancing him without problem. He took the win and gained five seconds, as well as the bonus seconds. Valverde was third at 10 seconds, with Contador only fourth, a whole 18 seconds down.

j/k

I'm in marginal gain melt down at the moment. Give me some time to recover.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Looked a little too easy for him to ride away from the biggest doper in the race.

Contador had a bad day.

 

[hrotha]

It would be nice if these threads were used to collect any Clinic-related info regarding a particular rider instead of starting with a simple "he was good - DOPER!" I don't know, at least a tiny bit of analysis, perhaps?

Purito turned pro with ONCE in 2001. His having to work for Valverde is often brought up as a reason why he wasn't this good before (and he was pretty underrated, IMO), but then again he also rode for Saunier Duval (!) where he wasn't on anyone's leash and he didn't deliver the same kind of goods at all. While he was always a very good rider, his breakthrough season (when he became world class) only came in 2010, at 31, upon joining Katusha, one hell of a dodgy team (Colom, Pfannberger, Galimzyanov, Kolobnev, Pozzato, alleged links with Ferrari).

OK, we can go on from there.

 

[the big ring]

To be honest, this early in the Vuelta, if you are sitting on, it really isn't that hard to have a go for 400m, which is all he did.

It is surprising that Contador could / did not follow, considering he went for an intermediate sprint a couple of days ago and considers every second precious. But I don't think it's indicative of J-Rod doping.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Purito turned pro with ONCE in 2001. His having to work for Valverde is often brought up as a reason why he wasn't this good before (and he was pretty underrated, IMO), but then again he also rode for Saunier Duval (!) where he wasn't on anyone's leash and he didn't deliver the same kind of goods at all. While he was always a very good rider, his breakthrough season (when he became world class) only came in 2010, at 31, upon joining Katusha, one hell of a dodgy team (Colom, Pfannberger, Galimzyanov, Kolobnev, Pozzato, alleged links with Ferrari).

OK, we can go on from there.

Is there anyone (recently) where just by going by what their teams were/are you could make an argument that they could be clean? I appreciate you gave some context as well as the teams but just curious.

 

[roundabout]

I think he did a good Vuelta in about 2008.

Maybe he is another rider benefiting from the biological passport?

 

[roundabout]

And on another note, there weren't so many uphill finishes back when Rodriguez was still in his 20's so it's hard to judge like for like.

He does seem to be better in high mountains now, that's for sure.

 

[SafeBet]

In a way I found a bit suspect he was so consistent during this year's Giro, but honestly the field was so weak I can't jump to any conclusion.

I'm expecting some bad days during the Vuelta though.

 

[hfer07]

gotta love the UK postal fans coming up with this sort of tactics to water down what Froome is pulling these days...

The OP seems to be unaware of Purito's career & somehow is trying to blend the Froome's ridiculous doping performance with someone that has "excelled on steep MTF his entire career"....

..and Purito dopes too-not up to the ridiculous level of Froome & the UK Postal, for that matter.

I ask - how long this thread will last, when Joaquim gets dropped during the "long MTF" stages?

 

[ebandit]

wooo...oooh!

remember Todays Finish is where J Rod Excels

Play the Doper Card when J Rod Burns the Field in an Individual Time Trial

 

[roundabout]

He'll collapse and die after burning the field in the ITT because that's how much dope he would need.

 

[User Guide]

Is there anyone (recently) where just by going by what their teams were/are you could make an argument that they could be clean? I appreciate you gave some context as well as the teams but just curious.

John Tiernan-Locke
His mentor was super talented multiple national title winner who gave up a european cycling career as didnt want too dope.He worked in the guys bike shop whilst he was away/ill/doing his degree too.(sorry forget his name)
Then rides for Endura and Smithy who is very much in the "lifetime ban" camp.

 

[User Guide]

Cant conclude didly from today,(unless you believe whole peleton charging)
Climbers especially explosive ones like J-Rod putting 20 odd seconds into the likes of Nocentini and Roche not unsurprising.
Looks worse because Bertie was bad is all.

 

[Arnout]

Purito already showed he is very good on steep ramps when he was still riding for Valverde. I think a big part of his better results in recent years are also the result of the Valverde suspension, Bettini, Rebellin (semi)retirement. He was already up there when they were still competing.

It is, however, remarkable how he suddenly started to be very good in GC's and long climbs as well.

Or maybe not, he barely rode any GT's before 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquim_Rodríguez

 

[taiwan]

Purito is one of my favourite riders. Did ride for some dodgy teams though, and does excel in the Ardennes.

 

[Cycle Chic]

When is this little g*t gona get popped ? he's the worst doper of them all.

 

[42x16ss]

Re:

When is this little g*t gona get popped ? he's the worst doper of them all.

How is he the worst? Not saying he's clean but there are a LOT of riders I'd say are more suspicious.

 

[Cycle Chic]

Re: Re:

When is this little g*t gona get popped ? he's the worst doper of them all.

How is he the worst? Not saying he's clean but there are a LOT of riders I'd say are more suspicious.

He's 36 and still podiums in most races. Ridiculous !

9x stage Vuelta a Espana ('15, '13, '12, '11, '10, '03)
2x Il Lombardia ('13, '12)
2x GC Volta Ciclista a Catalunya ('14, '10)
GC Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco ('15)
3x stage Tour de France ('15, '10)
La Flèche Wallonne ('12)
6x stage Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco ('15, '12, '11, '10)
4x stage Tirreno-Adriatico ('13, '12, '09, '08)
GC Setmana-Catalana ('04)

Key stats: #ProWins 40 #GrandTours 23 #Classics 27

2014
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1st Stage 3
3rd Clásica de San Sebastián
4th Overall Tour of Oman
4th Overall Vuelta a España
5th Milano-Torino
8th Giro di Lombardia
Tour de France
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2015
Tour de France
1st Stages 3 & 12
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Vuelta a España
1st Stage 15
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1st Stages 3 & 4
3rd Liège–Bastogne–Liège
4th La Flèche Wallonne
5th Clásica de San Sebastián
8th Overall Critérium du Dauphiné

 

[Lyon]

Re: Re:

Cycle Chic on Rodriguez: He's 36 and still podiums in most races. Ridiculous !

harryh on Dumoulin: He's young, looking good on and off cycle etc.

 

[the sceptic]

He's not doing anything too out of character at the moment is he?

 

[Irondan]

He's certainly not slowing down as much as should be expected of someone his age.

In his defense, new training methods, nutrition and marginal gains has allowed older cyclists to remain top step competitive right on through to the ripe old age of.... 41?

 

[hrotha]

Purito only became world class at 31 when he joined ultra-dodgy Katyusha. His in-character performances are already highly suspicious because of that, even if we forget he's 36.

 

[Irondan]

Re:

Purito only became world class at 31 when he joined ultra-dodgy Katyusha. His in-character performances are already highly suspicious because of that, even if we forget he's 36.

Another amazing transformation...

Katusha = shady

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Purito only became world class at 31 when he joined ultra-dodgy Katyusha. His in-character performances are already highly suspicious because of that, even if we forget he's 36.

Another amazing transformation...

Katusha = shady

From doper to lead doper ?

Manolo => Saunier Duval => Valverde's lieutenant