Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

[Boehmand]

The only reason to make this ad must've been to make sure Pog knows Chuckie is after him.

THAT's what it reminded me off, thanks man!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

What if Vingegaard was actually created by AI...

Well apparently he was

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow

 

[Ricco']

Ladies & gents, I present the nightmare fuel of the day:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648242844946006016

View: https://twitter.com/JumboVismaRoad/status/1648242844946006016


Jonas is nonhuman confirmed.

AI showing us what happened in the parallel universe where Macaulay Culkin and the doll Annabelle had a child.

 

[Red Rick]

Massive re-signing for Jumbo

 

[Andy schleck]

Teddy switched to classics just in time before the Fishy Era!

Teddy knows his place. There's no place for him on fishy era. He switched to classics like machine gun kelly switched to other genre after eminem buried him!

 

[Lequack]

So how is he preparing for the Tour?

 

[Andy schleck]

So how is he preparing for the Tour?

He is in sierra nevada. He will be unstoppable in july.

 

[Rob5091]

He's down for the Dauphiné first in June. I did see van Aert is not going for Green so he'll be full-time domestique for Vingegaard.

 

[Lequack]

He's down for the Dauphiné first in June. I did see van Aert is not going for Green so he'll be full-time domestique for Vingegaard.

THe Belgians won't be liking that. First Remco has to work for Almeida and now this! Where will it end! #FreeWout

 

[Rob5091]

If Wout can help Vingegaard win the Tour this year, without Roglic and with a bug going around Jumbo, then it'll be a bigger achievement then last year's win.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

If Wout can help Vingegaard win the Tour this year, without Roglic and with a bug going around Jumbo, then it'll be a bigger achievement then last year's win.

It depends on Pogacar's form. If he's not at his normal level then Vingegaard will demolish the competition and no teammates will be needed.

 

[Rob5091]

I agree, which is why I assumed Pogacar would be at least as good as at last year's Tour, when I wrote about Vingegaard's chances of winning.

 

[how yes no?]

I'm not sure about Pogačar, it's certainly not the preparation plan he had in mind before being forced so, but I've heard rumors about Jonas being in frighteningly great shape, expecting even considerably better shape than last tour, training numbers are said to be over nine thousand!
Right now, I would put my money on Jonas before Tadej, hoping to be proven wrong of course.

 

[Valv.Piti]

With this spring, and a better prep than last year, I'd expect nothing less than 9000 watts from Jonas. But what stages is he gonna strike on this year? Hopefully he will have more self-confidence and shoot a bit more loosely than the very controlled (and smart) race he rode last year.

 

[Red Rick]

With this spring, and a better prep than last year, I'd expect nothing less than 9000 watts from Jonas. But what stages is he gonna strike on this year? Hopefully he will have more self-confidence and shoot a bit more loosely than the very controlled (and smart) race he rode last year.

I just don't really think Vingegaard needs these specific conditions to beat Pogacar on a mountain stage. Just take a decently long climb, hard climb, drill the *** out of it, and go. Bonus points for having teammates in the break.

If I were Jumbo I'd just tell Van Aert he can want what he wants, but he is going in that breakaway over the Tourmalet so he can take a piss from the top of the climb again except this time Vingegaard is joining him solo

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'm not sure about Pogačar, it's certainly not the preparation plan he had in mind before being forced so, but I've heard rumors about Jonas being in frighteningly great shape, expecting even considerably better shape than last tour, training numbers are said to be over nine thousand!
Right now, I would put my money on Jonas before Tadej, hoping to be proven wrong of course.

Yup, cycling home and jogging upstairs is not an optimal preparation for Pogacar. Even at his best beating Vingegaard would be very hard but this doesn't look like the best preparation. We will see, I'm still hoping for a great spectacle but yeah, Vinge is in a better position to win the Tour.

 

[KZD]

With this spring, and a better prep than last year, I'd expect nothing less than 9000 watts from Jonas. But what stages is he gonna strike on this year? Hopefully he will have more self-confidence and shoot a bit more loosely than the very controlled (and smart) race he rode last year.

I would say stages 9, 14 and 17 seem the most likely stages for Vingegård to drop Pogačar. Stage 9 because Puy de Dôme is super steep in the last 4/5 kilometers, stage 14 is a proper mountain stage and Joux Plane is steeper than Hautacam last year and stage 17 is the hardest one of the race and Col de Loze is a beast of a climb.

I am not to sure about stage 6 as Tourmalet is not that steep but if Pogačar comes undercooked due to his injury recovery (hopefully not), I can see him getting dropped there too but with the long descent before the final climb, tactics are going matter more than in other stages.

 

[Andy schleck]

With this spring, and a better prep than last year, I'd expect nothing less than 9000 watts from Jonas. But what stages is he gonna strike on this year? Hopefully he will have more self-confidence and shoot a bit more loosely than the very controlled (and smart) race he rode last year.

He just needs one stage, and that is the stage of col de la loze. But the stage of joux plane is also suitable for him. Long range attack from tourmalet can be a option.

 

[Blanco]

I'm not sure about Pogačar, it's certainly not the preparation plan he had in mind before being forced so, but I've heard rumors about Jonas being in frighteningly great shape, expecting even considerably better shape than last tour, training numbers are said to be over nine thousand!
Right now, I would put my money on Jonas before Tadej, hoping to be proven wrong of course.

I've heard in february that his training numbers were frightening, but then Paris-Nice came...

 

[theyoungest]

With this spring, and a better prep than last year, I'd expect nothing less than 9000 watts from Jonas. But what stages is he gonna strike on this year? Hopefully he will have more self-confidence and shoot a bit more loosely than the very controlled (and smart) race he rode last year.

I don't know if a better preparation really benefits Vingegaard, apparently the formula for success with him is not actually doing that much. A bit like it was with Geoghegan Hart: doing less got him in a better form. Vingegaard has had a shortened prep for the Tour twice now, and twice he was really strong in July. Maybe months of prep actually has the opposite effect.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I think he's going to lose the Tour this year, because so far Danes have only been able to win the Tour when it began in places starting with Den (Denmark/Den Bosch). They also both started with a time trial and Hautacam featured as well. But then Pogačar hasn't yet won a Tour that started outside of France, so maybe the winner will be a third guy?

 

[Lorzenz08]

If both are at same level than last year, even with better tactic for Pog, I'd still give Vingegaard 60/40 advantage to win.

 

[Red Rick]

The only negative I see for Vingegaard is Jumbos overall performance in ITTs this year

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

The only negative I see for Vingegaard is Jumbos overall performance in ITTs this year

Which is pretty irrelevant with a single 22km ITT in the route.

 

[Elos Anjos]

He's looking more and more goulish.