Leipheimer's shoe: when does it drop

[Oldman]

Levi had shared experiences with all of the active participants now qoted by the press. How much time before Levi has a contribution?

 

[therhodeo]

Depending on the outcome of tomorrows stage we might see him try to throw Lance under the bus if he thought he could ruin Horner too.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Horner?

I completely forgot about Horner. On the one hand, Levi and Horner rode with epic lying cheats. The mere association now is going to stain both their careers if they say nothing publicly. If they corroborate, they too are epic lying cheats. No winning that one.

I've got the ultimate (fake) spoiler for you all: a 2011 doping positive for both knuckleheads. Why not? Pat gets to eject the bad guys from his league, Fabiani gets the best possible personal attack. Lance, are you reading this? Call Pat. Get it done.

I don't see how Levi or Horner can set up for a better outcome than 'lying cheating sycophant.'

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I have no doubt that Levi is complete fraud. What's rather sad is that he has to dope to be a total wheelsucker.

 

[therhodeo]

I'm not sure about Horner as a doper though. I was talking about Levi being jealous if Chris wins tomorrow. I think there could be some truth to Horner being a huge natural talent who couldnt hang in the doped ranks and is finally hanging in a cleaner peloton.

 

[131313]

I'm not sure about Horner as a doper though. I was talking about Levi being jealous if Chris wins tomorrow. I think there could be some truth to Horner being a huge natural talent who couldnt hang in the doped ranks and is finally hanging in a cleaner peloton.

well, if it helps your thought process at all, he did about 6.1 w/kg for 20 minutes, then 40 minutes later did almost 18 minutes at 6.8 w/kg. That's equal to, or better than Contador's ascent up Verbier last year.

You can draw your own conclusions.

 

[D-Queued]

I completely forgot about Horner. On the one hand, Levi and Horner rode with epic lying cheats. The mere association now is going to stain both their careers if they say nothing publicly. If they corroborate, they too are epic lying cheats. No winning that one.

I've got the ultimate (fake) spoiler for you all: a 2011 doping positive for both knuckleheads. Why not? Pat gets to eject the bad guys from his league, Fabiani gets the best possible personal attack. Lance, are you reading this? Call Pat. Get it done.

I don't see how Levi or Horner can set up for a better outcome than 'lying cheating sycophant.'

Levi already tested positive once, and sports a Testosterone hair style.

Dave.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Chris wasn't close enough to the circle and is going to just deny he saw or heard anything.

Levi on the other hand, it actually wouldn't shock me if in the end it turns out he cooperates with investigators.

 

[rafifi]

...sports a Testosterone hair style.

Dave.

Wow, with that logic; LA, George, and Tyler are all clean. Come on give us bald guys a break.

 

[Galic Ho]

Levi already tested positive once, and sports a Testosterone hair style.

Dave.

Dude by that logic, everyone who slaps a testosterone patch on would be hairless. It's genetic and caused by a DHT that attaches to the hair folicles and stops hair growth. When it is produced, well that's down to your mum and your dad. Can happen at almost any time in your life. The older you get, the more likely if your a dude, it'll latch onto your hair.

 

[ansimi]

He'll probably be ready to tell all about 3 months after people have stopped caring. He's just that boring.

 

[Spencer]

well, if it helps your thought process at all, he did about 6.1 w/kg for 20 minutes, then 40 minutes later did almost 18 minutes at 6.8 w/kg. That's equal to, or better than Contador's ascent up Verbier last year.

You can draw your own conclusions.

Dude, Chris Horner did not ride anywhere near that power. Have you seen Rory Sutherlands power data on velonews? Rory rode 6.0-6.1w/kg for the final climb, so from some pretty simple maths you can work out that Chris Horner would have ridden ~ 6.4W/kg BIG difference to 6.8w/kg. That's assuming Sutherland is actually the quoted 76kg. I've heard his a little heavier.

Also, the 2nd last climb for the day was done at ~5.5-5.6W/kg for 20mins, NOT 6.1!!

Considering i know a few domestic riders that can punch out 6W/kg for 15mins in a TT effort, it's no surprise that the best in the world can do 6.4w/kg at the end of a 3hr stage.

I'll draw my own conclusions from that. A very talented rider in very good form absolutely smashing himself to pieces at the end of a stage to prove he's the best.

 

[pedaling squares]

He'll probably be ready to tell all about 3 months after people have stopped caring. He's just that boring.

My God, this made me laugh. How true.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

He'll probably be ready to tell all about 3 months after people have stopped caring. He's just that boring.

That's classic! Funny and true. Levi has to be the most personality-challenged rider in the pro ranks.

I'd like the ToC a lot more if he weren't always mentioned as favorite. Though I take great pleasure in seeing him get his a$$ handed to him in the only race he contests for the win. Other than the Tour of the Gila, where he really beats up on cat 1/2 bike shop employees.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Chris wasn't close enough to the circle and is going to just deny he saw or heard anything.

Levi on the other hand, it actually wouldn't shock me if in the end it turns out he cooperates with investigators.

I think most, if not all of his former teammates are cooperating. There is something about appearing before a Grand Jury that is utterly intimidating unless you are a real liar through and through. Even those guys normally assert their privilege against self-incrimination.

We are going into the endgame. The only issue now is the timing of the indictment. That will probably not occur until analysis of the blood and **** from Europe is completed.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Poor Odessa.

 

[theswordsman]

Levi already tested positive once, and sports a Testosterone hair style.

Dave.

Don't forget what Holczer said about the 2005 Tour de France. It's important because of the behind the scenes warning by the UCI.

According to Holczer, he was told on the rest day in Grenoble that analysis of Leipheimer’s blood values had returned an off-score reading of 132.8, just 0.2 away from the threshold that would have seen him been automatically stopped by the UCI.

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5...ng-the-2005-Tour-de-France.aspx#ixzz1MzpbVlUK

 

[Race Radio]

Don't worry, Levi did the right thing......finally.

 

[richwagmn]

Don't worry, Levi did the right thing......finally.

Or he just got some excellent advice for his lawyer. Do NOT lie under oath. They will prosecute you.

 

[blackcat]

Levi already tested positive once, and sports a Testosterone hair style.

Dave.

and a hgh sized head

 

[happychappy]

Considering i know a few domestic riders that can punch out 6W/kg for 15mins in a TT effort,

Yeah, don't we all. But they certainly don't do those efforts with a serene smile slapped across their chops.

 

[Maxiton]

I'm not sure about Horner as a doper though. I was talking about Levi being jealous if Chris wins tomorrow. I think there could be some truth to Horner being a huge natural talent who couldnt hang in the doped ranks and is finally hanging in a cleaner peloton.

One word: no. Horner just last year expressed extraordinary loyalty to Armstrong. This year he's climbing like a freight train. An early middle aged freight train, smiling ear to ear and breathing through his nose. Sorry.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Considering LL's reaction after losing the TT yesterday maybe it is a sign of his building stress. Today may be the day he was planning to sing to the media....

Before the day is over there must be another....we'll see. Seems like they're tumbling like dominoes.

(w/r to Horner it seems that that is a grimace...y'know like Basso's 'smiling assassin' face)

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Don't worry, Levi did the right thing......finally.

Hope you're right. From your lips to God's ears.

 

[D-Queued]

Wow, with that logic; LA, George, and Tyler are all clean. Come on give us bald guys a break.

Dude by that logic, everyone who slaps a testosterone patch on would be hairless. It's genetic and caused by a DHT that attaches to the hair folicles and stops hair growth. When it is produced, well that's down to your mum and your dad. Can happen at almost any time in your life. The older you get, the more likely if your a dude, it'll latch onto your hair.

You guys need to get out more often.

Genetically, it is linked to your mother and not your father. "Research indicates that susceptibility to premature male pattern baldness is largely X-linked"

And, could you explain to the crowd what DHT stands for? And, for bonus points, what its precursor is?

From a University of Washington study of 2,000 men, published in Cancer Epedimiology, and reported here:

Baldness is caused when hair follicles become exposed to too much dihydrotestosterone (DHT). This is a chemical produced by the male hormone testosterone.

Experts believe that men with high levels of testosterone are more likely to lose their hair, especially if baldness runs in the family

Dave.