LOL! McQuack Calls Lemond "Arrogant"

[86TDFWinner]

Didn't see this posted here, but thought you all might get as good of laugh out of this as I have. Apparently McQuack thinks Greg is "arrogant" to suggest himself for UCI president, and claims "What's he(Lemond) done for cycling in the last 25 years? nothing. The people who know me, know the job I've done".....WTF is he talking about? McQuacks almost as big of a fraud as Wonderboy is:


http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...gant-to-suggest-interim-uci-presidency_268895

(I Especially loved this part: “Greg was a great cyclist who I’ve known since the time when I was the organizer of the Tour of Ireland back in the 1980s, but I would ask him: ‘What have you done for cycling in the past 25 years?’ The answer is nothing,” McQuaid said. “I find it a little bit arrogant for him to say he is prepared to serve as interim president of the UCI. The UCI is a democracy, there is an electoral system in place. If he wants to, he can always seek the support of his national federation and stand for election next September.”)


He(McQuack) just further cements how big of a POS he is......

 

[thehog]

Didn't see this posted here....

You obviously didn't look too hard.

 

[86TDFWinner]

I only went back a few pages, if its been posted & I've been busy with finals. My bad if it's already been posted, mods can close please.

 

[Stingray34]

Pat and the UCI are peddlers, not pedallers.

What's Greg done for cycling over the past 25 years? Gave it esteem and principles, and tried his darndest to clean it up.

What's Pat done? Shat all over the enterprise and anyone else that tries to call him and his drunk, corrupt buddies on it.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Pat and the UCI are peddlers, not pedallers.

What's Greg done for cycling over the past 25 years? Gave it esteem and principles, and tried his darndest to clean it up.

What's Pat done? Shat all over the enterprise and anyone else that tries to call him and his drunk, corrupt buddies on it.

Agreed. (And I love the Smiths too-met Morrissey twice, super nice guy & I'm a big fan).

 

[Stingray34]

Agreed. And I love the Smiths too(met Morrissey twice, nice guy).

Really? Where? Heard he can rub people the wrong way (oo'er, sounds a bit rude!) Great singer, I agree.

Morrissey for UCI Prez! Aigle is Morrissey's town, the UCI justs stays there.

 

[BillytheKid]

Pat and the UCI are peddlers, not pedallers.

What's Greg done for cycling over the past 25 years? Gave it esteem and principles, and tried his darndest to clean it up.

What's Pat done? Shat all over the enterprise and anyone else that tries to call him and his drunk, corrupt buddies on it.

Lemond is looking for cash in wake of his victory over the Texan. Regain the throne sort of mentality I would say. Lemond looks to be as deluded as the Texas wonderkid who took it from him using better doping than he had available. It's like a two-year old ranting "I want my fame and fortune back." Your avitar had much to say about the "little helpers" of his generation. I have no proof that Greg did, but I also have little doubt Fignon had reason to lie about what was going on in the sport then. Was Greg so much better than those those who used? In Dubious Battle? What's what and who's who?

 

[Master50]

Just show me what Experience Greg has at the head of an international organization? Integrity may be rare in general and maybe Greg Has a big pocket full of integrity but the job requires more than honesty. It does require some experience in Sport management. Like the saying the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[red_flanders]

Lemond is looking for cash in wake of his victory over the Texan

What makes you say this? Is Lemond in some financial difficulty that you're aware of?

 

[thehog]

Just show me what Experience Greg has at the head of an international organization? Integrity may be rare in general and maybe Greg Has a big pocket full of integrity but the job requires more than honesty. It does require some experience in Sport management. Like the saying the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

What experience did McQuaid have? Irish road cycling president for 3 years. He wasn't even a European pro! Just a hack in the UK.

Besides, is running an international sports product company not enough?

What do you want? The head of FIFI?

 

[mountainrman]

The worst aspect of that interview is how McQuaid insults all the rest of us as cycling fans.

In this version - http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/n...els-Greg-LeMond-arrogant-for-presidency-claim

In this version he says...


"Asked if he had been hurt by calls for his resignation, McQuaid said: "Personally? No. Most of the people who were calling for my resignation had nothing to do with cycling and I think they were wrong to do so."

Since I have yet to meet a cycling fan who is NOT calling for MQuaids resignation he is basically saying none of the millons of fans have "anything to do with cycling"

He tries to distance himself from the Armstrong fiasco - yet has backed the actions and reputation of his predecessor on every occasion throughout Armstrongs entire TDF career.

The ONLY thing he got right in that interview is that cycling in London was a great event. He failed to say that it had nothing to do with him, despite his trying to claim credit for it.

 

[BillytheKid]

What makes you say this? Is Lemond in some financial difficulty that you're aware of?

Truely a speculative statement, but based on the fact the sports careers end, and with that a paycheck. Sports stars run on endoresments and post career slots. Baseball great Mickey Mantle died with about $50,000 left to his name signing and selling baseballs. Lemond did lose big to the Texan. It would not be an unlikely motive to strike at the one who stole your thunder. Lemond was promoting bike tours during the 1999 tour. When ask then about Armstrong, he seem a little of the mark in his praise as I recall. Lemond Inc. was going south in a hurry. I remember the markdowns on his bikes. He's back in the business selling his trainers, but I bet the manufacturer is getting the most of it. The career posts are long term employment...something long term or regular job is what you want. People are posting down Chris Horner as dumb while Lemond does not even know that you never nominate yourself for a post. You gain support and have someone else do it for you, but I doubt if he's really that dumb. It makes headlines and keeps the name alive. We all have to work for a living or face the grim tiller. Those who achieve fame often are challenge when the star fades, especially in sports, but your right, I have no specifics on Greg, but his actions make you wonder.

 

[D-Queued]

Truely a speculative statement... but your right, I have no specifics on Greg, but his actions make you wonder.

Ignorance is bliss.

I am wondering. What is the intent of your actions?

Dave.

 

[Velodude]

Ignorance is bliss.

I am wondering. What is the intent of your actions?

Dave.

Billy must be on the research. He lays claim to be an investigative journalist.

 

[The_Z_man]

Pat and the UCI are peddlers, not pedallers.

What's Greg done for cycling over the past 25 years? Gave it esteem and principles, and tried his darndest to clean it up.

What's Pat done? Shat all over the enterprise and anyone else that tries to call him and his drunk, corrupt buddies on it.

I, for one, have never called Pat a drunk.

Lemond is looking for cash in wake of his victory over the Texan. Regain the throne sort of mentality I would say. Lemond looks to be as deluded as the Texas wonderkid who took it from him using better doping than he had available. It's like a two-year old ranting "I want my fame and fortune back." Your avitar had much to say about the "little helpers" of his generation. I have no proof that Greg did, but I also have little doubt Fignon had reason to lie about what was going on in the sport then. Was Greg so much better than those those who used? In Dubious Battle? What's what and who's who?

Billy,

Greg LeMond is in such dire straits that he took the settlement from Trek and donated it. Yeah, he's really in it for the cash.

What a load. He was a great champion, and is now trying to return the credibility of the sport. He's not in the fight against doping because he wants a pay day.

 

[BillytheKid]

Ignorance is bliss.

I am wondering. What is the intent of your actions?

Dave.

The intent? Perhaps I am too focused on human nature. The most people serve themselves. Self interests collide. I just questioning the automatic it-step idea that Greg Lemond is the all-american good guy, out for truth and justice, people claim him to be. Maybe so, maybe not.

He was clearly wiped off the map by the rise of the Armstrong era. What I am pointing out is his loss of forture, in my opinion, is more likely his innermost motivation rather a man out for the good of the sport. Doping made no sudden apperence with Lance Armstrong. Lemond never took to the anti-doping soapbox until it and LA pinched his pocket. The LA super stardom must of really hurt, especially with some knowledge of how the game evolved. We are afterall taking about very competitive people. Lemond already knew about the rise of EPO, but if I even heard about people using blood transfusions down-home here in the late 1980s, I have to think that EPO was the evolution of the former and, as we all know, became a game of both.

I once cheered Lemond. He motivated me to race a bike. I really don't want to go here, but after all that I've read, I am left with doubts about how this played out. Someone from the outside the sport should be the next head of the UCI. Someone wit no connection to the sport at all.

I think we all want to protect our legacy whatever it might be.

So why would Greg Lemond want to head the UCI?

 

[BillytheKid]

I, for one, have never called Pat a drunk.



Billy,

Greg LeMond is in such dire straits that he took the settlement from Trek and donated it. Yeah, he's really in it for the cash.

What a load. He was a great champion, and is now trying to return the credibility of the sport. He's not in the fight against doping because he wants a pay day.

So what's his net worth? Occupation? Source of income? Was the donation worth more as a tax write-off that the total taxes owed if he took it as income?Who are is backers?

I don't know the answers to these questions, but they should be asked.

If he's seriously vying to head the UCI, would not his current cycling company be a conflict of interest? Would he be willing to give all commercial income from his cycling Brand up?

Those are the questions that should be asked, but instead people believe that the are no self-interests.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

The intent? Perhaps I am too focused on human nature. The most people serve themselves. Self interests collide. I just questioning the automatic it-step idea that Greg Lemond is the all-american good guy, out for truth and justice, people claim him to be. Maybe so, maybe not.

He was clearly wiped off the map by the rise of the Armstrong era. What I am pointing out is his loss of forture, in my opinion, is more likely his innermost motivation rather a man out for the good of the sport. Doping made no sudden apperence with Lance Armstrong. Lemond never took to the anti-doping soapbox until it and LA pinched his pocket. The LA super stardom must of really hurt, especially with some knowledge of how the game evolved. We are afterall taking about very competitive people. Lemond already knew about the rise of EPO, but if I even heard about people using blood transfusions down-home here in the late 1980s, I have to think that EPO was the evolution of the former and, as we all know, became a game of both.

I once cheered Lemond. He motivated me to race a bike. I really don't want to go here, but after all that I've read, I am left with doubts about how this played out. Someone from the outside the sport should be the next head of the UCI. Someone wit no connection to the sport at all.

I think we all want to protect our legacy whatever it might be.

Hey Billy,
Could you link in any way at all that Greg has, as you put it "lost his fortune"?

So why would Greg Lemond want to head the UCI?

He doesn't - but don't let that stop you rambling on.

 

[The_Z_man]

Lemond never took to the anti-doping soapbox until it and LA pinched his pocket.

WRONG! LeMond started speaking out about Lance in 2001 after learning that Lance was working with Ferrari. At that point, LeMond bikes, a brand of Trek, was doing very well. Greg LeMond HURT himself by speaking out, as the lawsuit has shown.

I really don't want to go here, but after all that I've read, I am left with doubts about how this played out.

I have never heard anything about Greg LeMond being tied to doping. In fact, I've only ever heard the opposite. From what I've read, he left PDM because they wanted him to use testosterone.

So why would Greg Lemond want to head the UCI?

Because Jonathan Vaughters asked him to do it to restore credibility. Since he has never been in a doping scandal, and (unlike you think) really has nothing to gain from being president of the UCI, could restore some credibility to the sport. Someone from outside, with no ties to cycling, wouldn't bring the same cachet as LeMond would.

 

[noddy69]

So what's his net worth? Occupation? Source of income? Was the donation worth more as a tax write-off that the total taxes owed if he took it as income?Who are is backers?

I don't know the answers to these questions, but they should be asked.

If he's seriously vying to head the UCI, would not his current cycling company be a conflict of interest? Would he be willing to give all commercial income from his cycling Brand up?

Those are the questions that should be asked, but instead people believe that the are no self-interests.

Why should they be asked exactly ?

 

[The_Z_man]

So what's his net worth? Occupation? Source of income? Was the donation worth more as a tax write-off that the total taxes owed if he took it as income?Who are is backers?

I don't know what he does for a living. However, I highly doubt Floyd Landis would donate any settlement he gets from the whistleblower lawsuit he's go going on.

If he's seriously vying to head the UCI, would not his current cycling company be a conflict of interest? Would he be willing to give all commercial income from his cycling Brand up?

That's a moot point. There is no income from his cycling brand. Trek killed it off because he spoke out against the golden boy.

 

[BillytheKid]

Hey Billy,
Could you link in any way at all that Greg has, as you put it "lost his fortune"?

He doesn't - but don't let that stop you rambling on.

Why did he sue TREK? Because his bikes were not selling and he blamed Armstrong's influence with TREK in the matter. I sure that private citizen Lemond has that link up for the public to view of all his finacial statements. Most of us do right? Know wait, that's only required of public officials.

Your world is nothing, but links. There is nothing in it except links. Nothing exists outside the web. The lack of a link does not dislodge common knowledge.

 

[BroDeal]

Truely a speculative statement, but based on the fact the sports careers end, and with that a paycheck. Sports stars run on endoresments and post career slots. Baseball great Mickey Mantle died with about $50,000 left to his name signing and selling baseballs. Lemond did lose big to the Texan. It would not be an unlikely motive to strike at the one who stole your thunder. Lemond was promoting bike tours during the 1999 tour. When ask then about Armstrong, he seem a little of the mark in his praise as I recall. Lemond Inc. was going south in a hurry. I remember the markdowns on his bikes. He's back in the business selling his trainers, but I bet the manufacturer is getting the most of it. The career posts are long term employment...something long term or regular job is what you want.

He sued the Yellowstone Club, which settled for $39.5M. The former owners, who mismanaged the club, also reached a settlement with the LeMonds for another $20+M. About half of those amounts were paid out before the club and owner filed for bankruptcy. Currently they have a $13.5M lien on what used to be the former owners' 160 acre property and home in the exclusive club. The LeMonds still own a house in the club. The value of that house alone is worth enough to live modestly for the rest of their lives.

 

[BillytheKid]

I don't know what he does for a living. However, I highly doubt Floyd Landis would donate any settlement he gets from the whistleblower lawsuit he's go going o



That's a moot point. There is no income from his cycling brand. Trek killed it off because he spoke out against the golden boy.

Landis... still making an honest living.

Wait what's this?

http://www.lemondfitness.com

 

[noddy69]

What has his money situation got to do with this might I ask since I was ignored by the main protagonist who reckons we all should know gregs finances....why?