March 17th 2012 Milan-Sanremo - The Primavera - 298km

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jens_attacks said:
Love videos like this. Especially when the team who's making them wins.
Sciatic said:
Whoa, what a huge DNF list. I guess when it's 300 k the idea of just staying till the finish just for training isn't so appealing. Or was there a time limit that cut them off?
I know the DNFs for the cobbled classics are even bigger, but that's because the cobbles and weather shatter so many riders out.
My guess is when you're 10 minutes back it's pretty tempting to go straight to Sanremo instead of taking a right and over the Poggio.
 
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thehog said:
yeah mate yeah mate, stuey mate, yeah na, yeah na..... Australians are so eloquent.

Yeah, because sportspeople the world over are known for their eloquence - you need to get over it
 
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lol @ hog.
is he upset an australian won and resorts at an insult at australians in general... wow; you're a classy guy! (mate hahahah)
 
search said:
he lost contact due to the Gilbert/Vanendert/van Summeren etc. crash with 20km to go. (like Greipel and di Luca for example did as well, they weren't able to close the gap afterwards)

Yeah, one of the hard luck stories

“I was caught behind that crash on the top of the Cipressa when Gilbert went down,” Haussler said. “I didn’t crash but I got caught behind it. I was too far back. Then it was all stretched out in a long line. There were some gaps opening up and it just split. At that point, there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it. I’m not disappointed, I am just angry. I am happy with my legs and how I feel — look at me, I am not even f—ked after 300km."

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...nd-boonen-among-big-losers-at-san-remo_209667

Didnt realise van summeren was in the crash. Suppose it makes sense actually that Haussler got caught behind it as he was likely on van summeren's wheel.
 
pastronef said:
bull****: an italian did not win and they want to change the parcours

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/route-changes-for-2013-milan-san-remo


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about the changings i hope not,let cipressa and poggio.i want to see also sprinters having some glory.i also don't like le manie there,it should be removed.
who cares,italians won't win anyway:p
 
jens_attacks said:
they are bad losers.on the front page of gazzetta dello sport they even made a bad joke about gerrans and doping.of course because they didn't win.
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the new generation of italian cycling will suck so hard,they won't win anything in the next 10 years only maybe with di luca,basso,scarponi and rebellin if he comes back.lol they even removed podiums at the kids races,way to go to become a loser nation in sports kudos!


about the changings i hope not,let cipressa and poggio.i want to see also sprinters having some glory.i also don't like le manie there,it should be removed.
who cares,italians won't win anyway:p
Its one newspaper and yet you judged all italian as sore loser.
 
Sure, it's fine that they want an Italian to win, but not by tailoring a parcours for the Italian star of the moment. Used to be Italy dominated the sprints. Would they revert to a softer Milan-Sanremo if Guardini comes along?

I think the current parcours is great, and if it needs further tweaking it shouldn't be in the finale.
 
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pastronef said:
bull****: an italian did not win and they want to change the parcours

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/route-changes-for-2013-milan-san-remo

there hasn't won an italian in years. simply put. msr has bad viewing numbers in italy because the race is boring. ever heard about the massive differences between viewing numbers during the giro between mountain and flat stages? 4x as much watch mountainstages that's why you see so many of them in the giro
 
Zam_Olyas said:
Its one newspaper and yet you judged all italian as sore loser....does all romanian love dopers?

it just piszes me off for what they did to that awesome generation.no more nationals or worlds for them but they are hyping as hell some guys with absolutely no chance in world class races,modolo,gatto,viviani.

i will edit my stupid rampage though lol
 
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Just watching the highlights again, and I'm reconsidering my opinion on Liquigas tactics. Seemed like they were trying to win it with Nibali specifically, or at least leaning that way, whereas they should have been fully backing Sagan IMO. On the Poggio descent, Sagan was the second man in the chase group, and looked like he could have done more, but then he would be dragging people up to Nibali's group. Would have been better to just scrap Nibali's chances in that group and let Sagan get back. That's with hindsight, though, and assuming Sagan could actually have caught them.
 
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the problem is nibali and oss only ride for themselves in every race. they are destructive in every way to sagan's chances. in oman for instance every stage oss sprinted for himself while sagan could've won. also saturdya in msr oss did absolute zero work so he could finish 9th himself, nibali 3rd and sagan should've won this
 
For the kids out there who don't know anything about cycling, I'll have to recall that 800m after the foot of the Poggio means Corso Cavalotti !


Corso Cavalotti was the street where the finish line was set between 1988 and 1992 ! A little bit of a research might help. That's not crazy since when they switched to Lungomare, Corso Cavalotti was also an issue.

Lungomare is sh*t. Not only is set further away from the Poggio, compared to Via Roma but head win 9 time in 10.

Via Roma is wind-proof and what's more, slightly uphill. And the traditional setting for the finish. The only thing I would wish know is the return of the Via Roma.

A new hill wouldn't be a bad thing of course but I don't think it's necessary. Even the Maniè is not necessary, I think. In order to prevent bunch sprints, there's only one thing to do: COMBAT DOPING ! If you don't agree with this, you know what's in your eyes.


The CN article is crap.
Traditionally a sprinter's race,

LOL :D
First, in 1960, organisers added the Poggio climb to the event, and in 1982, the Cipressa. The reason for both changes was the same: make the race more selective in order to ensure possible attackers a chance of victory.

Inaccurate. True for the Poggio in 1960 but in 1981 Fons De Wolf won the last edition without Cipressa alone. The Cipressa was supposed to reduce the speed for safety reasons (which is stupid since Raas had a serious crash in the descent) but not to prevent a sprint.

Ryo Hazuki said:
the problem is nibali and oss only ride for themselves in every race. they are destructive in every way to sagan's chances. in oman for instance every stage oss sprinted for himself while sagan could've won. also saturdya in msr oss did absolute zero work so he could finish 9th himself, nibali 3rd and sagan should've won this

Lol, Sagan had two "teammates" from Katusha to work for him and they couldn't catch 'em up. :D

Of course, Nibali's riding for himself. He's the LEADER, so why should he be a domestique. :rolleyes: De Vlaeminck never gave any help to De Muynck when the latter could win Romandie. Stybar never expected anything from his teammates when he raced for Fidea. Cycling is an individual sport.
 
jens_attacks said:
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about the changings i hope not,let cipressa and poggio.i want to see also sprinters having some glory.i also don't like le manie there,it should be removed.
who cares,italians won't win anyway:p

Imo it's perfect as it is now.
Le manie is good, because it makes a selection and imo the people that get dropped there don't deserve to win M-SR.

Last year a group of 8 was at the finish line and this year it was a group of 3 with 8? man behind them. Not exactly a bunch sprint.
Sure there were 4 sprinters in that 2nd group, but that's simply because they are not just sprinters.