Teams & Riders Mark Cavendish Discussion Thread

[Red Rick]

On crashes:
Great bloke

You don't have to post here if you don't want. Of if you have nothing constructive to post for that matter.

I posted a quote from the rider plus my disapproval. Seems like that ought to be an acceptable post in a discussion thread, if not an I Love Mark thread.

Sure, if you don't make stuff up

 

[jmdirt]

"The difference is between winners and losers. The guys who win understand it and congratulate each other. It's the ones who never win. Perhaps its not fair to bracket them all, but the ones who don't win perhaps feel bitterness, they resent things and take frustrations out in that way," he said.

Great bloke

This makes sense. If you finish 8th, 14th, 7th, 10th... then you start taking more risks. He's not being a "great bloke", he's speaking the truth.

TB said something similar (paraphrase), the hardest guy to beat is the guy who has never beaten you because he will try everything.

 

[Pricey_sky]

On crashes:
Great bloke

You don't have to post here if you don't want. Of if you have nothing constructive to post for that matter.

I posted a quote from the rider plus my disapproval. Seems like that ought to be an acceptable post in a discussion thread, if not an I Love Mark thread.

It's also not a 'I hate Cav and I want everyone to know how much I hate him in every post I make on here' thread

 

[El Pistolero]

Cav is speaking nonsense, as I've rarely seen a more dangerous and disrespectful rider than him.

 

[King Boonen]

On crashes:

"The difference is between winners and losers. The guys who win understand it and congratulate each other. It's the ones who never win. Perhaps its not fair to bracket them all, but the ones who don't win perhaps feel bitterness, they resent things and take frustrations out in that way," he said.

Great bloke

Cavendish does not mention the word crash or anything related to it once in that article. He is referring to people who don't win, not those who crash.

Full article:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mentality-of-the-riders-causing-stress-in-final-kilometres-says-cavendish/

Unnecessary dangers in sprint finishes is the context in this article, though upon reading it again it's unclear to me why Cavendish said what he said. Perhaps a missing paragraph as Nick C said

Thankfully, it's a pretty douchy thing to say regardless of the context.

That's not what you said though is it? You dislike Cav, that's fine, just don't make things up.

 

[MatParker117]

I'll say it again, best ever.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Cavendish officially now greater than Hinault.

 

[Cannibal72]

Re:

Cavendish officially now greater than Hinault.

Not GREATER THAN, but he's definitely the best sprinter of all time.

 

[Pricey_sky]

One of the best sprinters of all time! Chapeau Cav!

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re:

I'll say it again, best ever.

Yes. At this point arguments for Cipollini or others are obviously tendentious. There's never been a sprinter at Cavendish's level.

 

[therealthing]

Re:

One of the best sprinters of all time! Chapeau Cav!

One of? He's the greatest!

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Cavendish officially now greater than Hinault.

Not GREATER THAN, but he's definitely the best sprinter of all time.

In terms of TDF stage wins, yes.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Re: Re:

One of the best sprinters of all time! Chapeau Cav!

One of? He's the greatest!

I have my 'mod' hat on, but I agree!!

 

[Pricey_sky]

and suddenly after this past week the chance of being a 2x world champ becomes a huge reality.

 

[MacBAir]

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and suddenly after this past week the chance of being a 2x world champ becomes a huge reality.

Well, still going to Sagan for that one. Froome can't do a wiggins for him and Peter is like Cancellara and Tom had a baby. Besides, people will still go with the "he has no team, let's not worry about him" mentality.

 

[MatParker117]

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and suddenly after this past week the chance of being a 2x world champ becomes a huge reality.

His team should be unreal as well:

Thwaites, G, Stannard, Rowe, Cummings, Mclay, Fenn, Blythe, Dowsett, Cav

 

[jmdirt]

WOOHOO Cav!

 

[laurensde+]

Re:

Cavendish officially now greater than Hinault.

The Badger says hi...

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

and suddenly after this past week the chance of being a 2x world champ becomes a huge reality.

His team should be unreal as well:

Thwaites, G, Stannard, Rowe, Cummings, Mclay, Fenn, Blythe, Dowsett, Cav

dont be surprised if Froome and Wiggins dont reprise the London rr failure but this time with 9 riders, they can control it with Germany, Slovakia, Norway, they are about the only teams that will want a sprint. if Wiggins and Froome-dawg give him 200kms...

 

[blackcat]

Re:

Cav is speaking nonsense, as I've rarely seen a more dangerous and disrespectful rider than him.

bull$h!t, you're an idiot m8, the two fairest sprinters, three actually, i have seen, Cav, Thor, Tommeke, the times Cav has come off his lines, are the exceptions to the rule. If Cav was Australian for instance, he would have stacked up an entire morgue by now.

 

[MatParker117]

Re: Re:

and suddenly after this past week the chance of being a 2x world champ becomes a huge reality.

His team should be unreal as well:

Thwaites, G, Stannard, Rowe, Cummings, Mclay, Fenn, Blythe, Dowsett, Cav

dont be surprised if Froome and Wiggins dont reprise the London rr failure but this time with 9 riders, they can control it with Germany, Slovakia, Norway, they are about the only teams that will want a sprint. if Wiggins and Froome-dawg give him 200kms...

French and the Italians as well.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

One of the best sprinters of all time! Chapeau Cav!

One of? He's the greatest!

Maertens and Cipo will have something to say about that. Let's wait for Cav to finish his career before claiming he's better than those two

 

[Cannibal72]

Re: Re:

Cavendish officially now greater than Hinault.

Not GREATER THAN, but he's definitely the best sprinter of all time.

In terms of TDF stage wins, yes.

In terms of literally everything else, no. 'Greater than' does not mean just in TdF stage wins - overall, Cav could never match Le Blaireau's achievements.

 

[Jspear]

So what does he do? Does he finish the Tour and continue his win tally or drop out and go for an ideal Rio prep?

 

[PremierAndrew]

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and suddenly after this past week the chance of being a 2x world champ becomes a huge reality.

Worth noting Kittel and Greipel both had peaks in may for the Giro, whereas Cav was not in form in the spring, so he should be fresher come September too