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Visited Ohrid- Macedonia before couple of weeks and could not resist of getting couple of pictures of LBS in old part of town, it is awesome. If you are looking for your Di2 get fixed, or buying carbon stem you are looking at wrong shop, but if you are looking to weld your broken frame or building new one, than we are talking.





Do not know how do you call for these type of front brake:D
 

oldborn

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LBS owner, really nice guy, almost half blind (some rare eye disease) he need 75 000 euro for surgery, and he got 65 000. Place where you can drink cofee or tea, chat, or just hanging around if your wife are horny.





Stand is awesome


Sorry if boring, but those places are gonna die for couple of years:(
 
TheDude said:
The Performance stores are even worse than Trek.

Here is what I find a bit sad. I was forced to mail-order buy a bike last week. My son is turning 4. He has a 12" run-bike, perfect balance and needs a real bike, but is too small for a 16". You can not buy a 14" bike in the U.S. I have a Dawes coming from the UK (islabikes wouldn't ship).

I went to 4 or 5 local shops, most of the staff was great. It wasn't the shops fault, it was the U.S. market - nobody cares to get their kid on a good quality bike and that means in the future even fewer people with the love of cycling. I remember all of my childhood bikes from a tiny Schwinn with stabilizers to a Gitane 3-speed racer when I was about 8. Those bikes were freedom.

My nephews have wall-mart hunks of junk that can't be fit and maintained properly, but a really nice LCD TV or 2 in the house. Bike shops are in trouble because people don't ride - starting with childhood.

When I 1st saw this thread title I just assumed it was ABOUT performance. Actually I like Performance and spend a lot more of my bike accessory money there than at the LBS. (When not shopping at Performance for accessories and such, I typically shop at an LBS that carries mostly Specialized and Cannondale as well as some Trek. I tend to gravitate towards Specialized accessories when fit really matters. Could just be my body type. Chunky as f--k.)

But my criticism about Performance IS about their service staff's attitude. I have no idea whatsoever what type of skills they have because they will never turn a wrench on my bikes or my wife or kid's. Arrogant know it all doesn't begin to scratch the surface of the guy in Cary NC. For all I know he is the greatest mechanic this side of the Pro Peloton. I don't care.

On top of that, if I buy for example a cycle computer or aero bars from a local shop, wheter it be Performance or an LBS, I expect it either mounted by the seller for free or nearly for free, not some exorbitant rate card price. That mentality along with the arrogance sends me running from the service dept. I hate that about Performance.

Now as for your 12" 14" 16" dilemma. I really never had a problem with buying wally world bikes when my son was that size. The da-n kid grows like a weed at that age. He was on a 12" for maybe 1 season, then a 16" for 2 more. They'll ride 20" bmx bikes right up to adult hood (frames will change). Once he got into 20" we got an lbs bike.

I think Performance is doing to some LBS's what Lowes and Home Depot did to the Hardware store. The one in Cary put the weak LBS in the area out of business in a year. There are several others still in business, no idea if they are profitable or not. The new Perf. store in Raleigh NC is right between the trek Concept store and a local chain that I also consider a bunch of obnoxious a-holes. Every time I go in there they treat me like I am a brain dead moron. They cater to an entry level audience, which is fine, but just because I happen to walk through your doors doesn't mean you have to down sell me because that's all you stock. Sheesh. They treat 105 like it's Dura Ace and still act like it's more than 99% of people really need. I really couldn't care when Performance shuts them down. They're a low hanging fruit that has earned what they got coming as far as I am concerned. The Trek store is actually run by a guy who genuinely is in tune with the local scene. I hope he thrives. It doesn't mean he doesn't have the usual local boy racer know it all on staff. I guess it's just a fact of life.

The LBS employee d-bag ought to be the subject of another thread. They are a special breed: 'Hi, I make minimum wage and get parts at cost. In return for being a tool making $125 a week living with my parents, my other unpaid benefit is to insult your intelligence to the point where your soul cries out and wishes you were dead. And if you don't "look cyclist" enough, I have reserved a special level of insolence just for being soft, middle aged and obviously not above Cat 4.'
 
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I bought a new bike this year and was amazed by the difference in the shopping experience

the last time i bought a bike was 20 years ago when I was 18. Then i was living in Countryside UK and bought the bike from a small LBS. i spent an entire summer working to buy the bike, and every weekend in the shop thinking about what I wanted and hassling the guy there.

The guy running the place convinced myself and two of our friends to join a new club he had formed (i think in an attempt to drop the average age below 50) put up with our countless questions, did running repairs for free and did all he could to encourage a love for cycling in 3 young guys with way too much time on their hands.

All this to sell 3 frames and parts, that i very much suspect he made very little money on due tot he discounts he gave us

this year i decided to return to riding. i was shocked by the difference in the experience. The first issue was identifying a LBS that i thought could help me out. I was surprised to find that most of the shops were brand focused. I know there is a big difference between country Uk and centre of sydney where i now live but was disappointed to find that i could not just 'adopt' a local shop that would deal with everything i needed going forward. instead i found myself having to travel to several stores to look at different brands and in the end my purchase was based more on interest free credit than level of service.

going into stores it felt like going shopping in any other type of shop. quick chat about the product and then move on. Not what I was used to

i now have no connection to a local store. I choose one store for wheel repairs cause it is near work. I shopped online for clothes because i did not feel loyal to a store and the price difference was HUGE.

I have to say that over recent weeks i have started to develop a preference for one store which despite being probably the most corporate and branded looking store is the first place where the first question from the guys on the floor is how was your ride this morning, hows the training going, rather than what do you want to buy

I think the branding of shops makes it harder to feel loyal to a store. and without that feeling of connection and loyalty the price difference is not enough to stop me going online. If I want something small or need it right away i will pick the nearest store to me that day. if i want clothes i go online, and next time i want a bike i will choose the bike i want and buy it from the shop that sells it.

i personally feel like i have missed out on something this time around and am very glad i had the other experience as a kid.
 
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durianrider said:
You should print this out and send it to all the bike shop managers you know... You dont have to have a return address..

You should take note that continually telling everyone how awesome you are, is a major turn off.
 

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pedaling squares said:
Sorry, but why would you hang out at that shop if your wife was horny?!

Yeah i was thinking about other definition of horny:D

Off topic; where is Brodeal Dude, he is kind of banned or just turned monk:rolleyes:
 
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ok I really had to laugh at the pic of the old guy and the comment of hanging around the shop with the horny wife...it's not my scene but I mean whatever floats your boat!

Recently I wanted a new Thomson stem...so I thought I would give my LBS a chance...they didn't have the size and would have to order it...no biggie...but they wanted 125 bucks...of course I got it online for 70...and while I appreciate the need for a LBS, I don't really see it as my job to pay 40 percent extra to simply keep them in business...especially when the place is just wall to wall trek and bont stuff and they mostly seem to just move loads of 600 dollar low end bikes...not to be heartless, the good bike stuff is pretty expensive anyhow even online...so I will get it where it is the cheapest most likely...

great pics of the bike shop btw...reminds me of some old shops in Antwerp where I used to live...a few looked like that place with old guys who could do just about anything with any bike...build incredible wheels, knock any bike into decent shape somehow and would have old stock in boxes in the back...say some discontinued chainring ect...or tires they had been keeping in the cellar for a couple of years to age properly ect and it would cost you three bucks more for the aged one...great stuff...same dirty a## shop outfits as well...
 
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The Gnome said:
Recently I wanted a new Thomson stem...so I thought I would give my LBS a chance...they didn't have the size and would have to order it...no biggie...but they wanted 125 bucks...of course I got it online for 70...and while I appreciate the need for a LBS, I don't really see it as my job to pay 40 percent extra to simply keep them in business...

And you're justified no doubt. It's weird, my lbs is always within a few points of what I can find online. You guys have a lot of bad experiences with your local shops!
 
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bc_hills said:
And you're justified no doubt. It's weird, my lbs is always within a few points of what I can find online. You guys have a lot of bad experiences with your local shops!

true enough...probably has to do with where I live...rural stuff with small city of twenty thousand nearby...the main LBS sells skis as well and makes a killing on that stuff...so there is no real competition...one good thing tho is because their labor costs are so outrageous I have become good at doing my own wrenching...they want 60 bucks for labor alone to put on a new pair of shifters ect...30 bucks to do a simple true on a wheel ect ect...besides the fact that if it is in season they will tell you ten days for the wait! So I picked up the park bike blue book and zinn's book...and do it myself...or learned anyhow so can do everything basic now except press headsets which I don't have the tools for...which is a much better feeling besides being a cheapie...so I guess good things come out of bad...besides, it's hard enough to justify 70 bucks for a stem to the wife (who thinks an entire bike should be gotten for 70 bucks) rather than 125 for same part...
 
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Martin318is said:
I am assuming its the other definition of horny? - angry and moody

oldborn said:
Yeah i was thinking about other definition of horny:D

Off topic; where is Brodeal Dude, he is kind of banned or just turned monk:rolleyes:

Ok, didn't know that version... over here we have lots of other words for those moods and reserve horny for the good days.

I don't think BroDeal ever came back after a 2wk suspension, he might have decided he'd had enough... don't really know. I like to think he's tormenting the believers and the mods at another forum.
 

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pedaling squares said:
Ok, didn't know that version... over here we have lots of other words for those moods and reserve horny for the good days.

I don't think BroDeal ever came back after a 2wk suspension, he might have decided he'd had enough... don't really know. I like to think he's tormenting the believers and the mods at another forum.

Thanks Dude.