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Cobblestones said:It's probably a bit of both. Bordry is fighting for his job I think. Budget cuts and negative press about his clash with the UCI last year. Then the story about Astana's syringes. Nothing ever materialized. Same with the re-testing. Nothing came out of that. We laugh about Fat Pat McQuack, but this guy isn't a PR genius either.
peloton said:IIRC that is a French criminal investigation that is still going on, nothing to do with Bordry.
goober said:Bordry was quite vocal to the media about the syringes during his post TDF escapade - involved in that sense. If AFLD had the juristiction to investigate such a find I am sure they would.
neither. it's a power/personality conflict not dissimilar to pound/verbruggen personal animosity. you change the players and the mother organizations will get along just fine. don't look beyond the changes since paddy macky and johnny fahey took the lead. the uci and wada are fine now.Oldman said:Does Boudrey's comments mark an alliance with the forces fighting Lance Armstrong/UCI or is this a last ditch effort for AFLD budget and authority.
again, see above no plot involved whatsoever. just plain old defending the turf by pissing on a tree delineating 'my territory'. if the winner is defined as the afld will get the additional 5% (or so) test as they insist, then they will win. but again, it'll be a pyrrhic victory because 5% increase in testing makes no difference in the real world but all the difference in bordry's brain.It's a thick plot with alot of thick players. What's up? Who will win?
enrecul said:u reckon LA and AC were on separate juice programmes in astana? i wonder how that one worked???
python said:neither. it's a power/personality conflict not dissimilar to pound/verbruggen personal animosity. you change the players and the mother organizations will get along just fine. don't look beyond the changes since paddy macky and johnny fahey took the lead. the uci and wada are fine now.
again, see above no plot involved whatsoever. just plain old defending the turf by pissinging on a tree delineating 'my territory'. if the winner is defined as the afld will get to the additional 5% (or so) test as they insist, then they will will win. but again, it'll be a pyrrhic victory because 5% increase in testing makes no difference in the ral world but all the difference in bordry's brain.
the victory for the sport would be to strip the uci of any testing.
enrecul said:u reckon LA and AC were on separate juice programmes in astana? i wonder how that one worked???
python said:strip=take away
the uci=international cycling union
any=any
testing=testing
any more questions ?
biker jk said:How does that corrupt fool keep being re-elected? What can we do as true cycling fans to end this tyranny?
biker jk said:How does that corrupt fool keep being re-elected? What can we do as true cycling fans to end this tyranny?
biker jk said:How does that corrupt fool keep being re-elected? What can we do as true cycling fans to end this tyranny?
thehog said:I found this very interesting:
"Bordry needs to learn the rules of anti-doping and follow them," he said. "The AFLD has tested riders four times this year when they were not required to do so. The last was just last Friday. They went to test riders from RadioShack who were riding the Dauphine Libere but when they presented a list to the directeur sportif Alain Gallopin, it included the name of a mechanic and a soigneur. How bad is that?"
- Wasn't there a story once of USPS subbing the p1ss of the team staff for riders... ie the "too clean" claim?
If so this is a masterstroke by the AFLD. Test the urine of the support staff to ensure the riders are not subbing samples.
thehog said:I found this very interesting:
"Bordry needs to learn the rules of anti-doping and follow them," he said. "The AFLD has tested riders four times this year when they were not required to do so. The last was just last Friday. They went to test riders from RadioShack who were riding the Dauphine Libere but when they presented a list to the directeur sportif Alain Gallopin, it included the name of a mechanic and a soigneur. How bad is that?"
- Wasn't there a story once of USPS subbing the p1ss of the team staff for riders... ie the "too clean" claim?
If so this is a masterstroke by the AFLD. Test the urine of the support staff to ensure the riders are not subbing samples.
Colm.Murphy said:It would be interesting if they had a way to make them submit a sample, perhaps the UCI licenses staff and mechanics.
As it is, I don't think they can demand a urine sample from non-UCI elite racers.
I do recall the "too clean" story, though I thought it was from the Giro during the Discovery years, ie Savoldelli.
Oldman said:Test someone not a licensed racer? Come on. There are some laws protecting civil rights, aren't there? If that's what it takes to keep racers from doping then the cause is lost. If there is laxity and fraud it starts with the people that have the most to lose: promoters, governing bodies then the riders. The first two have no reason for existence or opportunity for profit without the circus monkeys.