I can only repeat what I wrote before from what Troy Aikman said. Kickers face more pressure than any other position in football, even the quarterback.
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I couldn't tell from the TV coverage either, but the NFL changed it from a miss to a tip/block so I'm assuming that they saw something?on3m@n@rmy said:I can't blame Seabass (Jani) either. Total team loss.jmdirt said:Upon further review the ball was tipped (as noted several times above), so we should be talking about great special team play by the Eagles.
As much as I wanted to blame Jani for the SEA loss, there was too much to go around: the O couldn't move the ball, and the D couldn't stop EE.
As to the tipped ball, I heard that talked about, watched some video, but my own eyes could not clearly see the tip as it happened so fast at game speed, although I admit the tipping hand & ball were in close proximity to each other. I take the word of others who say it was tipped as truth. A low kick still could be put partly on the kicker (the placement & hold looked good), but the tip could also be partly on the blocking and partly on a great defending play. Who knows, maybe the outdoor turf in that spot did not provide the best footing for the kicker's plant foot, though nobody appears to have mentioned that.
and some fans are silly enough to think that an entire game is lost on just one incident, conveniently forgetting about the other 59minutesAlpe d'Huez said:I can only repeat what I wrote before from what Troy Aikman said. Kickers face more pressure than any other position in football, even the quarterback.
Exactly. Plus, as the old saying goes, it's a game of inches.Archibald said:...and some fans are silly enough to think that an entire game is lost on just one incident, conveniently forgetting about the other 59minutes
I'm curious to see how Gurley's pulled up. If he's 100% then the rams will fire, and cowboys D will struggle. But if he's not, then their offense may struggle. I still think that it may hinge more on Donald, Suh n Co. They seem to come up with a few plays each game that allows the rams to keep puting their noses in front... if that makes sensemovingtarget said:The game I am looking forward to the most is Rams and Cowboys. Two great running backs, two young QBs, quite different in their styles. The Cowboys defense looks superior and the Rams who are so much better on offense since Fisher left are not the same defensively, of course Donald is a playmaker and should keep Prescott busy. Many seem to think it's the Cowboys game to lose but I think back to the Colts game a few weeks ago.
movingtarget said:The game I am looking forward to the most is Rams and Cowboys. Two great running backs, two young QBs, quite different in their styles. The Cowboys defense looks superior and the Rams who are so much better on offense since Fisher left are not the same defensively, of course Donald is a playmaker and should keep Prescott busy. Many seem to think it's the Cowboys game to lose but I think back to the Colts game a few weeks ago...........as for the Patriots, they could make the Super Bowl but instinct more than anything tells me that it's not happening this year. Snow predicted for the Patriots game. Colts and Kansas should also be very interesting. I think the Saints will win and expect the other game to be very close.
One could create a big list of games and seasons like that.The Hitch said:For the other games I would side with the Saints over the Eagles. I am wary of the Eagles - i remember when the Cardinals crushed GB in 2015 50-7 or some such, and then 4 weeks later in the playoffs it went to OT.
I don't disagree, at least it would remove some shine, but Wade Philips would be canned. I think signing Fowler was also maybe a mistake, Suh likely as well. This reminds me of the old Eagles "dream team" which was just piling on free agents, not thinking who would play well together.As I said Rams over the Cowboys easy. And if they don't win this that should expose Mcvay totally.
Don't disagree there at all. I had concerns Luck's shoulder would have gone the way of Chad Pennington, but he looks like the QB we all thought he could be. This team is solid, has depth as well.And ill take Indy as favourites for next year. Cos that is a damn strong team they are building.
Alpe d'Huez said:Another good post.
One could create a big list of games and seasons like that.The Hitch said:For the other games I would side with the Saints over the Eagles. I am wary of the Eagles - i remember when the Cardinals crushed GB in 2015 50-7 or some such, and then 4 weeks later in the playoffs it went to OT.
2003 Colts get whipped at home 31-17 by the Broncos in week 16, and it wasn't nearly as close as the score. Two weeks later they easily beat them in the playoffs, 41-10.
In 2010 the 14-2 Patriots just dismantled the Jets in December, 45-3. Come divisional playoff time? They gave probably the most lackluster performance in Belicheck's history against the same Jets (with Mark Sanchez!) losing 28-21.
And of course there's the 2007 season, where the perfect Patriots beat the Giants in the regular season, easily putting up 38 points, only to lose the SB to them, barely able to score 14 points, their lowest output all season.
As to teams looking unstoppable during the season, then folding in the playoffs, how about the 2011 Packers? 15-1, rest a slew of players after crusing, then lay an egg in the divisional round against the Giants. The defense giving up 37 points, the most they had all year.
I don't disagree, at least it would remove some shine, but Wade Philips would be canned. I think signing Fowler was also maybe a mistake, Suh likely as well. This reminds me of the old Eagles "dream team" which was just piling on free agents, not thinking who would play well together.As I said Rams over the Cowboys easy. And if they don't win this that should expose Mcvay totally.
Don't disagree there at all. I had concerns Luck's shoulder would have gone the way of Chad Pennington, but he looks like the QB we all thought he could be. This team is solid, has depth as well.And ill take Indy as favourites for next year. Cos that is a damn strong team they are building.
And while I'm at it, I don't think the Bears have that much to worry about. They are in a really good position. I also refuse to believe the Falcons will have another year like they did this season. That team is way too talented. A lot of people like the Browns, but they lack some depth, and still need help at a variety of positions. They could be a real wildcard contender next year though. I also have a little bit of faith that the Bills will improve a fair amount and surprise some people. We'll see there though.
The Hitch said:Alpe d'Huez said:Another good post.
One could create a big list of games and seasons like that.The Hitch said:For the other games I would side with the Saints over the Eagles. I am wary of the Eagles - i remember when the Cardinals crushed GB in 2015 50-7 or some such, and then 4 weeks later in the playoffs it went to OT.
2003 Colts get whipped at home 31-17 by the Broncos in week 16, and it wasn't nearly as close as the score. Two weeks later they easily beat them in the playoffs, 41-10.
In 2010 the 14-2 Patriots just dismantled the Jets in December, 45-3. Come divisional playoff time? They gave probably the most lackluster performance in Belicheck's history against the same Jets (with Mark Sanchez!) losing 28-21.
And of course there's the 2007 season, where the perfect Patriots beat the Giants in the regular season, easily putting up 38 points, only to lose the SB to them, barely able to score 14 points, their lowest output all season.
As to teams looking unstoppable during the season, then folding in the playoffs, how about the 2011 Packers? 15-1, rest a slew of players after crusing, then lay an egg in the divisional round against the Giants. The defense giving up 37 points, the most they had all year.
I don't disagree, at least it would remove some shine, but Wade Philips would be canned. I think signing Fowler was also maybe a mistake, Suh likely as well. This reminds me of the old Eagles "dream team" which was just piling on free agents, not thinking who would play well together.As I said Rams over the Cowboys easy. And if they don't win this that should expose Mcvay totally.
Don't disagree there at all. I had concerns Luck's shoulder would have gone the way of Chad Pennington, but he looks like the QB we all thought he could be. This team is solid, has depth as well.And ill take Indy as favourites for next year. Cos that is a damn strong team they are building.
And while I'm at it, I don't think the Bears have that much to worry about. They are in a really good position. I also refuse to believe the Falcons will have another year like they did this season. That team is way too talented. A lot of people like the Browns, but they lack some depth, and still need help at a variety of positions. They could be a real wildcard contender next year though. I also have a little bit of faith that the Bills will improve a fair amount and surprise some people. We'll see there though.
Not as high as you on the Bears. Ill be honest, wasn't high this year and they proved me wrong.
But I doubt them for next year anyway, because 1 defensive teams don't last as long as offensive based teams. I feel like theres more variation in defensive rankings year to year. And this is especially true if the defensive team doesn't have a great qb. Look at the 2 championship round teams from last year - VIkings and especially Jags.
Also feel like their division underperformed. VIkings have way more talent than that. Green Bay had their worst season with Rodgers. Detroit were hot and cold under their first year coach.
I'm high on Falcons. They had lots of injuries. And they didn't end up that far from the playoffs. But may only have 1 or 2 good seasons left with Jones so need to take advantage next year.
movingtarget said:The Hitch said:Alpe d'Huez said:Another good post.
One could create a big list of games and seasons like that.The Hitch said:For the other games I would side with the Saints over the Eagles. I am wary of the Eagles - i remember when the Cardinals crushed GB in 2015 50-7 or some such, and then 4 weeks later in the playoffs it went to OT.
2003 Colts get whipped at home 31-17 by the Broncos in week 16, and it wasn't nearly as close as the score. Two weeks later they easily beat them in the playoffs, 41-10.
In 2010 the 14-2 Patriots just dismantled the Jets in December, 45-3. Come divisional playoff time? They gave probably the most lackluster performance in Belicheck's history against the same Jets (with Mark Sanchez!) losing 28-21.
And of course there's the 2007 season, where the perfect Patriots beat the Giants in the regular season, easily putting up 38 points, only to lose the SB to them, barely able to score 14 points, their lowest output all season.
As to teams looking unstoppable during the season, then folding in the playoffs, how about the 2011 Packers? 15-1, rest a slew of players after crusing, then lay an egg in the divisional round against the Giants. The defense giving up 37 points, the most they had all year.
I don't disagree, at least it would remove some shine, but Wade Philips would be canned. I think signing Fowler was also maybe a mistake, Suh likely as well. This reminds me of the old Eagles "dream team" which was just piling on free agents, not thinking who would play well together.As I said Rams over the Cowboys easy. And if they don't win this that should expose Mcvay totally.
Don't disagree there at all. I had concerns Luck's shoulder would have gone the way of Chad Pennington, but he looks like the QB we all thought he could be. This team is solid, has depth as well.And ill take Indy as favourites for next year. Cos that is a damn strong team they are building.
And while I'm at it, I don't think the Bears have that much to worry about. They are in a really good position. I also refuse to believe the Falcons will have another year like they did this season. That team is way too talented. A lot of people like the Browns, but they lack some depth, and still need help at a variety of positions. They could be a real wildcard contender next year though. I also have a little bit of faith that the Bills will improve a fair amount and surprise some people. We'll see there though.
Not as high as you on the Bears. Ill be honest, wasn't high this year and they proved me wrong.
But I doubt them for next year anyway, because 1 defensive teams don't last as long as offensive based teams. I feel like theres more variation in defensive rankings year to year. And this is especially true if the defensive team doesn't have a great qb. Look at the 2 championship round teams from last year - VIkings and especially Jags.
Also feel like their division underperformed. VIkings have way more talent than that. Green Bay had their worst season with Rodgers. Detroit were hot and cold under their first year coach.
I'm high on Falcons. They had lots of injuries. And they didn't end up that far from the playoffs. But may only have 1 or 2 good seasons left with Jones so need to take advantage next year.
I think the window is closing for the Panthers and Falcons. Neither team has looked good since their respective Super Bowl losses and I think the Falcons miss Shanahan's scheming. Plenty of teams have been decimated by injuries but of course without the depth on squads, it's worse for some teams.
The Hitch said:movingtarget said:The Hitch said:Alpe d'Huez said:Another good post.
One could create a big list of games and seasons like that.The Hitch said:For the other games I would side with the Saints over the Eagles. I am wary of the Eagles - i remember when the Cardinals crushed GB in 2015 50-7 or some such, and then 4 weeks later in the playoffs it went to OT.
2003 Colts get whipped at home 31-17 by the Broncos in week 16, and it wasn't nearly as close as the score. Two weeks later they easily beat them in the playoffs, 41-10.
In 2010 the 14-2 Patriots just dismantled the Jets in December, 45-3. Come divisional playoff time? They gave probably the most lackluster performance in Belicheck's history against the same Jets (with Mark Sanchez!) losing 28-21.
And of course there's the 2007 season, where the perfect Patriots beat the Giants in the regular season, easily putting up 38 points, only to lose the SB to them, barely able to score 14 points, their lowest output all season.
As to teams looking unstoppable during the season, then folding in the playoffs, how about the 2011 Packers? 15-1, rest a slew of players after crusing, then lay an egg in the divisional round against the Giants. The defense giving up 37 points, the most they had all year.
I don't disagree, at least it would remove some shine, but Wade Philips would be canned. I think signing Fowler was also maybe a mistake, Suh likely as well. This reminds me of the old Eagles "dream team" which was just piling on free agents, not thinking who would play well together.As I said Rams over the Cowboys easy. And if they don't win this that should expose Mcvay totally.
Don't disagree there at all. I had concerns Luck's shoulder would have gone the way of Chad Pennington, but he looks like the QB we all thought he could be. This team is solid, has depth as well.And ill take Indy as favourites for next year. Cos that is a damn strong team they are building.
And while I'm at it, I don't think the Bears have that much to worry about. They are in a really good position. I also refuse to believe the Falcons will have another year like they did this season. That team is way too talented. A lot of people like the Browns, but they lack some depth, and still need help at a variety of positions. They could be a real wildcard contender next year though. I also have a little bit of faith that the Bills will improve a fair amount and surprise some people. We'll see there though.
Not as high as you on the Bears. Ill be honest, wasn't high this year and they proved me wrong.
But I doubt them for next year anyway, because 1 defensive teams don't last as long as offensive based teams. I feel like theres more variation in defensive rankings year to year. And this is especially true if the defensive team doesn't have a great qb. Look at the 2 championship round teams from last year - VIkings and especially Jags.
Also feel like their division underperformed. VIkings have way more talent than that. Green Bay had their worst season with Rodgers. Detroit were hot and cold under their first year coach.
I'm high on Falcons. They had lots of injuries. And they didn't end up that far from the playoffs. But may only have 1 or 2 good seasons left with Jones so need to take advantage next year.
I think the window is closing for the Panthers and Falcons. Neither team has looked good since their respective Super Bowl losses and I think the Falcons miss Shanahan's scheming. Plenty of teams have been decimated by injuries but of course without the depth on squads, it's worse for some teams.
Falcons looked very good last year. They went into La and beat the rams, - what the cowboys never looked close to doing yesterday. And then they were 1 drop away from beating the Eagles in phily. They were the closest to stop the Eagles actually, and this as a 6th seed.
jmdirt said:LAR vs DAL- DAL can't expect to win if they don't get EE going (47 yards?! WTH?!) AND don't stop the other team from running free (290 yards?!). If LAR can keep that ground game moving forward and heat up their pass game again, they will be the champs.
KC vs. IND- I picked KC but not because I thought that IND would play the first half like a scabbed together middle school rec league team. I enjoy watching Mahomes, and how about Williams "Kareem who?".