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I'm shocked by this. He prides himself on playing hurt & says he has a higher pain tolerance than other players. Guess not...he's turning into a wimp now (or maybe his $55m a year salary isn't enough. Lol).
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or.....he and the team are protecting the investment. Not sure if the Texans aren't their major concern of what strategy reigns in the AFC?
 
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Protecting the investment for what? McDermott has had a Tier 1 QB for 4 seasons now & has failed to a win a championship. According to the experts (GMs, HCs & coordinators) that compiled the Tier list, Allen is considered "the toughest QB to defend" and a QB that can single handedly win games. So, you'd think McDermott would have won at least one championship by now with a Superman at the helm. Lol.

Like I said in the previous post, Allen likes to pride himself on being so tough playing through injuries because of his high pain tolerance. But I don't think so if he's going to wimp out & not play at least a half against the Jets.

The real tough guy here is Stafford. Almost 10 yrs older than Allen, he's played the whole freakin season on a herniated disk. And he hasn't just played, but has been playing at a MVP level. And McVay is playing the starters vs Arizona regardless of seeding. So, 37 yr old Matt Stafford with a bad back will be playing while 29 yr old Josh Allen wimps out. Lol.

 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6514160/2025/08/11/nfl-qb-rankings-tiers-2025-jackson-daniels/
 
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Protecting the investment for what? McDermott has had a Tier 1 QB for 4 seasons now & has failed to a win a championship. According to the experts (GMs, HCs & coordinators) that compiled the Tier list, Allen is considered "the toughest QB to defend" and a QB that can single handedly win games. So, you'd think McDermott would have won at least one championship by now with a Superman at the helm. Lol.

Like I said in the previous post, Allen likes to pride himself on being so tough playing through injuries because of his high pain tolerance. But I don't think so if he's going to wimp out & not play at least a half against the Jets.

The real tough guy here is Stafford. Almost 10 yrs older than Allen, he's played the whole freakin season on a herniated disk. And he hasn't just played, but has been playing at a MVP level. And McVay is playing the starters vs Arizona regardless of seeding. So, 37 yr old Matt Stafford with a bad back will be playing while 29 yr old Josh Allen wimps out. Lol.

 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6514160/2025/08/11/nfl-qb-rankings-tiers-2025-jackson-daniels/
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"Wimping out" is your characterization. I would imagine they'd have him play some to check his form and any offense changes they might try on later opponents. As for not winning a championship: sometimes you save the really good powder for the bomb you'll need rather than impress the betting public.
As for Stafford; he'll likley get rested too. I doubt there's a fix for his back that prevents him from playing in the pocket. Allen, on the other hand...he can't stop his Derrick Henry tendencies. He's a seriously good runner but his passing will win them any championship they'll get more than taking unnecessary hits, IMO. If he's got a nerve impinging foot injury he won't be able to do either very well.
 
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The latest is Allen will take a snap or maybe a series to keep his starting streak alive;


OTOH, McVay is going full-throttle with the starters including Stafford:

www.espn.com

McVay to play L.A. starters regardless of seeding

Even if the Rams are locked into their seed on Sunday, coach Sean McVay plans to play his healthy starters against the Cardinals.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
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I've often felt during the season Stafford was one hard hit or sack from missing several games. He's tough and all, but why risk things? Just to prove you're tough?
 
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I've often felt during the season Stafford was one hard hit or sack from missing several games. He's tough and all, but why risk things? Just to prove you're tough?
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Yeah unleash the Jimmy G.................it's time............Cards were simply awful last week, like they have lost interest..........Cancun beckons.......Rams could rest several players and still win.... of course I have said that before and ended up with egg on my face.......
 
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If Seahawks win, they'll have a bye and will play either the Rams or the NFC south winner in the Divisional. You would have to favor the Rams in the wildcard game against either NFC south team. After that, well, Seahawks have the momentum, and they snatched victory against the Rams the last time they met.

The Niners, if they win, they will play the Seahawks or the NFC south winner. So either way, the NFC west will be destroying each other in the playoffs. There is a real possibility that an NFC west team goes to the SB.

The Seahawks have a lot of momentum, and one of the best, if not the best, defense in the league (up there are the Texans and Eagles). The Niners, too, have momentum, and they are getting healthy. The Rams have stumbled lately, and not sure how much they have to offer, but they are still a stacked team.

The Bears? Did they just get really fortunate during the regular season? The game vs SF was one of the better games of the season, and they could have easily won it, on the road, against a peaking team, but let's see what they can do in the playoffs.

The Eagles? Are they ready to defend their title? Who knows. I was surprised that they beat the Bills, on the road. There were some question marks earlier in the season, but they have quietly progressed. Granted, their division rivals have stunk it up, so they would have had to completely collapse to lose the division.

The Packers? Too injured and too prone to choking when it matters most. I don't really see them going anywhere in the playoffs.

The AFC

This feels like 2015 (actually the entire NFL does)

Patriots and Broncos winning their divisions and vying for the #1 seed. The Steelers and Ravens for the division title and the Chargers surprising.

I wasn't sure what to think of the Jags this season, but they've been playing quite well in the 2nd half, so too have the Texans.

To me, everything seems like a tossup. I think the Bills may be flying under the radar a bit, though they are gaining in form and with less pressure they may finally get to the SB in the 21st century.
 
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I've often felt during the season Stafford was one hard hit or sack from missing several games. He's tough and all, but why risk things? Just to prove you're tough?
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We've said that about Rodgers & he's taken a couple of very hard hits on sacks but yet shakes it off & keeps playing. So, he's actually a heck of a lot tougher than we give him credit for (and he's 42!).

It sounds like Allen is going to take a snap to keep his starting streak alive & then sit the rest of the game. Lol. I thought he might play a half or so where he could work on getting passes completed to wide open guys in the endzone. Lol. But of course his "sore" foot is too much for him to endure.

These QBs are paid zillions of $$$ to play a sporting "game." They're paid to play - even if injured. Because of these outrageous contracts with huge guarenteed money, they can refuse to play hurt (or exaggerate injuries) & laugh all the way to the bank. And these QBs expect their fan base to worship them treating them like Gods. Allen is not the tough guy he purports to be.
 
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Wow I didn’t realize Panthers vs Bucs was today, meaning the Buccaneers have to wait all the way till tomorrow afternoon/evening to see if they’re making the playoffs. If they win of course.
 
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Battle of the #1 OAs (round 2) in a rain soaked game. Both QBs threw the ball extremely well in wet conditions with near identical passing stats/ratings. Edge goes to the Bucs running game as they dominated 140-19 (Mayfield was the 2nd leading rusher making some key 1st dn runs). Bucs also won the turnover battle with no fumbles vs 2 by the Panthers. Conditions were so wet, that skill position players were playing without gloves for the first in their careers. Bucs have to wait until tomorrow hoping for a Saints win over the Falcons.
 
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We've said that about Rodgers & he's taken a couple of very hard hits on sacks but yet shakes it off & keeps playing. So, he's actually a heck of a lot tougher than we give him credit for (and he's 42!).

It sounds like Allen is going to take a snap to keep his starting streak alive & then sit the rest of the game. Lol. I thought he might play a half or so where he could work on getting passes completed to wide open guys in the endzone. Lol. But of course his "sore" foot is too much for him to endure.

These QBs are paid zillions of $$$ to play a sporting "game." They're paid to play - even if injured. Because of these outrageous contracts with huge guarenteed money, they can refuse to play hurt (or exaggerate injuries) & laugh all the way to the bank. And these QBs expect their fan base to worship them treating them like Gods. Allen is not the tough guy he purports to be.
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If I'm a coach and I want the best guy available for the game beyond that really counts....I MAKE THE DECISION. Owners and agents don't get fired over the conservation of assets until the really big game.
 
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If I'm a coach and I want the best guy available for the game beyond that really counts....I MAKE THE DECISION. Owners and agents don't get fired over the conservation of assets until the really big game.
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Especially when they don’t really gain anything by Allen playing while if he gets a worse injury that is grounds for multiple firings.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Looks like the road to Super Bowl LX will go through the Emerald City. I think anyone is going to have a very hard time going into Seattle and upend the Seahawks.
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That was one of the best defensive efforts since Legion of Boom and they weren't even dialed to 8-9...let alone the SpinalTap legendary 11 setting. McCormick calls a splendid defensive game and, even though they left 10 pts. on the board they kept SF deep in their own territory and burned clock starting in the 2nd quarter.
Darnold looked great and was intuitively averse to light tosses. He ran when he should and had minimal tipped balls which credits the O line. He had more space than usual to operate.
SF was heroic but their O line was depleted. Their defense was lucky and well coached but the playoffs are only going to accelerate the wear and tear. Whatever they accomplish, which could include another knock-out meeting of Seattle; they are deeply talented.
 
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Especially when they don’t really gain anything by Allen playing while if he gets a worse injury that is grounds for multiple firings.
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C'mon man, they're not winning with Allen. Any SBs? NO. Any AFC championships? NO. He's 0-4 in AFCCGs the last four yrs. He's been a Tier 1 QB for the last four years! Go look at the Tier 1 QBs & their success rate. Mahomes has 3 SBs & is a GOAT candidate. Stafford has a SB. Burrow has a AFC championship & SB appearance (probably more if he wasn't hurt all the time). Jackson, also a Tier 1, has nothing & is 3-5 in postseason (so, where's the firings of the coaches of these guys?). And Hurts wins a SB - and MVP - as only a Tier 2 QB. So what's Allen's excuse?

Allen & Jackson are supposed to be fulfilling the role of a Tier 1. They're not - they're both extremely overrated. Now surely, as an astute fan, you can see the problem here with Allen. And he's not that great of a pocket passer either. Mahomes & Burrow are far better when it comes to pure pocket passing. But so many football zombies worship this guy like he's a God or something (he's just a genetically gifted human being that has the luxury of playing a "sport" for zillions of dollars).

I wouldn't doubt the Bills get eliminated in the WC round no matter who they play. Lol.
 
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Great defensive performance from Seattle. 49ers without Pearsall and Trent Williams, their best o line player, and best route runner was a blow. Darnold was okay but for such a dominant win, the points were low. Missed FG's didn't help. . 49ers run game was effected by Williams being out and Purdy was under constant pressure. He was lucky not to get hurt when he caught a hit late from two defenders coming from opposite directions. he was on the ground for a while but according to Shanahan it was a stinger which was an anodyne way of saying he got crushed !Seattle's run game gashed the 49ers and the run defense has been a weakness for a while now especially since Bosa and Warner went out and they also lost their first round draft pick in Williams who was also playing well on the D line. 26 missed tackles said it all, the second largest amount for any team this season. They could have got back into the game late in the 4th quarter, on their only impressive drive but CMC dropped the ball and deflected it to a defender. That was game over. That's the best defense the 49ers have seen this season, Texans would be the second best. Also 3 points was the smallest amount of points for the offense since year one of Shanahan's tenure.

Buccs returned to form. Much better game by Baker. Otton was also good. Panthers run game didn't get going. Buccs need the Saints to beat the Falcons or it's off to Cancun next week ! Falcons played well against the Rams but they aren't consistent so it's not a done deal yet for the Panthers. Saints will have to limit Robinson to have any hope. He killed the Rams run defense.
 
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Great defensive performance from Seattle. 49ers without Pearsall and Trent Williams, their best o line player, and best route runner was a blow. Darnold was okay but for such a dominant win, the points were low. Missed FG's didn't help. . 49ers run game was effected by Williams being out and Purdy was under constant pressure. He was lucky not to get hurt when he caught a hit late from two defenders coming from opposite directions. he was on the ground for a while but according to Shanahan it was a stinger which was an anodyne way of saying he got crushed !Seattle's run game gashed the 49ers and the run defense has been a weakness for a while now especially since Bosa and Warner went out and they also lost their first round draft pick in Williams who was also playing well on the D line. 26 missed tackles said it all, the second largest amount for any team this season. They could have got back into the game late in the 4th quarter, on their only impressive drive but CMC dropped the ball and deflected it to a defender. That was game over. That's the best defense the 49ers have seen this season, Texans would be the second best. Also 3 points was the smallest amount of points for the offense since year one of Shanahan's tenure.

Buccs returned to form. Much better game by Baker. Otton was also good. Panthers run game didn't get going. Buccs need the Falcons to beat the Saints or it's off to Cancun next week ! Falcons played well against the Rams but they aren't consistent so it's not a done deal yet for the Panthers. Saints will have to limit Robinson to have any hope. He killed the Rams run defense.
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Seahawks dominated the game, mostly with the running. Myers missed two FG’s and they had a number of drives where they kind of just stalled once they got within the red zone. It could have easily been 33-3.

This is the Seahawks from the LOB days: best defense in the league, elite running game, and a quarterback that knows his role. Obviously Darnold isn’t Russell Wilson, and he likely will never be, but if he stays solid and doesn’t try too much, Seattle can go to the SB.
 
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