I'm pretty sure I read that, while Edelman wasn't invited to the combine, he ran the 40 faster than anyone who was.
King Boonen said:I'm pretty sure I read that, while Edelman wasn't invited to the combine, he ran the 40 faster than anyone who was.
The Hitch said:Don't get your emphasis on the recreational drugs.Koronin said:Yep. That just adds to the entire Patriots cheat. Also it seems most drug suspension in the NFL are for illegal drugs not for PEDs. Could be wrong, but it certainly feels that way.
Yeah a lot of them get caught for recreational not PED's.
But that's because the testing is such a joke, cycling looks like a police state in comparison.
Wasn't it the case very recently (maybe has changed) that they got tested twice a year, know the dates in advanced and simply have to make sure they are clean for that day.
Then even if they get caught its a 4 week suspension and no reputational damage with the last 2 non qb superbowl mvps both caught users (JE and VM)
SHAD0W93 said:King Boonen said:I'm pretty sure I read that, while Edelman wasn't invited to the combine, he ran the 40 faster than anyone who was.
I read that as well. He ran it with a 4.52 time.
When trying to compare the combine (which is electronically timed) and pro days, most people would add a couple of tenths of a second to the published pro day times. Pro days are set up to make the kids look good. That said I've no doubt Edelman would perform very well in the shuttle events where it's all about how fast you can change direction. I think he'd be pretty slow in the 40 yd dash. Even now, he's a classic overachiever - not a great athlete but wins by being smart, very good technically, very well coachedKing Boonen said:SHAD0W93 said:King Boonen said:I'm pretty sure I read that, while Edelman wasn't invited to the combine, he ran the 40 faster than anyone who was.
I read that as well. He ran it with a 4.52 time.
I checked, it wasn't the 40, it was the short shuttle he ran faster than anyone at the combine. Seems like the Patriots identified a player from one position (QB) who could make a very good player in a different position (WR). After selecting him it looks like he was slowly brought into that position covering for others, no doubt giving them the chance to coach him well and him the chance to fully learn how to play there. Wikipedia says he was Kent State's leading rusher while playing at QB, I'm not sure how common that is but I'm guessing not very? Calling him a donkey to race-horse conversion seems massively off-base.
It's not that uncommon. College football is very different from the NFL (schemes, average players level, rules) and QBs are often the best athletes on the team.King Boonen said:Wikipedia says he was Kent State's leading rusher while playing at QB, I'm not sure how common that is but I'm guessing not very? Calling him a donkey to race-horse conversion seems massively off-base.
That's not correct. There's a lot of offseason testing that is conducted away from the training facilities, e.g., personal residence, at a gym while working out, while vacationing anywhere in the states, etc. Players can be tested up to 6 times per year. Some are even target tested for suspicious circumstances (they better watch the social media stuff. Lol).Catwhoorg said:The Hitch said:Don't get your emphasis on the recreational drugs.Koronin said:Yep. That just adds to the entire Patriots cheat. Also it seems most drug suspension in the NFL are for illegal drugs not for PEDs. Could be wrong, but it certainly feels that way.
Yeah a lot of them get caught for recreational not PED's.
But that's because the testing is such a joke, cycling looks like a police state in comparison.
Wasn't it the case very recently (maybe has changed) that they got tested twice a year, know the dates in advanced and simply have to make sure they are clean for that day.
Then even if they get caught its a 4 week suspension and no reputational damage with the last 2 non qb superbowl mvps both caught users (JE and VM)
There is no "out of competition" testing period. Any testing is at team facilities
So most steroid use is out of season to bulk up ready for the new year.
They get tested at the start of training camp, then a few "random" players (4 IIRC) after each game.
Seems like kickers and punters get tested a whole lot more than they should.
Also don't annoy the powers that be, as there are allegations that means your name gets pulled after more matches.
King Boonen said:SHAD0W93 said:King Boonen said:I'm pretty sure I read that, while Edelman wasn't invited to the combine, he ran the 40 faster than anyone who was.
I read that as well. He ran it with a 4.52 time.
I checked, it wasn't the 40, it was the short shuttle he ran faster than anyone at the combine. Seems like the Patriots identified a player from one position (QB) who could make a very good player in a different position (WR). After selecting him it looks like he was slowly brought into that position covering for others, no doubt giving them the chance to coach him well and him the chance to fully learn how to play there. Wikipedia says he was Kent State's leading rusher while playing at QB, I'm not sure how common that is but I'm guessing not very? Calling him a donkey to race-horse conversion seems massively off-base.