Obituaries Thread, should all non-cycling deaths be in one thread?

[ElChingon]

As titled, pretty simple.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Imho, there is no reason why 'well known' people who die should not have their own topics, as long as posters are able to maintain some sense of proportion about the relative importance of the deceased in the grand scheme of things.

 

[The Hitch]

As long as posters are able to maintain some sense of proportion about the relative importance of the deceased in the grand scheme of things.

So you would have posters stop a discussion, because you feel that a subject isn't relevant enough?

Well, how could anyone argue. Since you have a superior view on what is and isn't relvant (as you so eloquently pointed out, simply because you are older, than most posters) we will have a perfect forum society, where every subject will be recieve a fair ammount of posts, neither too much nor too little.

Btw I find the Babes on Bikes thread has way surpassed its importance in the grand scheme of themes. Should we close it now then.

 

[auscyclefan94]

They all deserve their special mention or place in in the forum. After a few days the threads will fade away so I vote no.

 

[boomcie]

Imho, there is no reason why 'well known' people who die should not have their own topics, as long as posters are able to maintain some sense of proportion about the relative importance of the deceased in the grand scheme of things.

Utter bull crap. I leave it up to other people to decide how much they are affected by another human being's death. Importance is relative, not absolute. What a patronizing stance.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Ultimately, deaths of different people meet with different reactions. The threads on the deaths of Dan Wheldon and Marco Simoncelli, for example, merited debate on the relative safety of events, and something beyond the lives of the deceased, because they were in a position where repeats could perhaps be prevented. Then you have a thread like the Vaclav Havel one, full of condolences and tributes, whereas the Kim-Jong-Il thread is a completely different kettle of fish.

Different people's life's stories - and death's stories - merit different responses, and to throw them all together under one 'miscellaneous' article is a bit crass, especially as conversation can quite easily get muddled that way when people die at a similar time as Havel and Kim have.

 

[craig1985]

Imho, there is no reason why 'well known' people who die should not have their own topics, as long as posters are able to maintain some sense of proportion about the relative importance of the deceased in the grand scheme of things.

I couldn't disagree more.

 

[The Hitch]

When I was at school we played a game where we would guess potential career paths for every person, based on what we knew about them. Someone who liked trains might be a train driver, someone obsessed with sports might be a pundit, you get the idea.

Anyway, if we played this game on the forum, I think we all know now who would be the dictator.

 

[Maxiton]

I'm not fond of mass graves.

 

[boomcie]

When I was at school we played a game where we would guess potential career paths for every person, based on what we knew about them. Someone who liked trains might be a train driver, someone obsessed with sports might be a pundit, you get the idea.

Anyway, if we played this game on the forum, I think we all know now who would be the dictator.

You mean God?

The way this guy has been behaving lately dwarfs any attempt of sincere megalomaniac behavior I've seen on here. We're all very lucky this fella isn't a mod.

The saddest part is that he appears to be serious when imposing his preposterously dominant opinions.

 

[Martin318is]

an opinion was asked for and it was given - this is not an excuse to start persona attacks.

Stay on the topic or the thread gets closed

 

[ElChingon]

I just don't want the Cafe to become the Obituaries forum section since its winter time and holiday's which most of us know is when all the weak and feeble end up dieing.

Maybe an Obituaries forum section... dang this place is starting to look like the average news paper layout

Ugh...

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I just don't want the Cafe to become the Obituaries forum section since its winter time and holiday's which most of us know is when all the weak and feeble end up dieing.

Maybe an Obituaries forum section... dang this place is starting to look like the average news paper layout

Ugh...

hahaha excellente

 

[ElChingon]

an opinion was asked for and it was given - this is not an excuse to start persona attacks.

Stay on the topic or the thread gets closed

Can we just ban the offenders and keep the thread open? At least till it gets more face time for votes? I mod recommended this be done so I'm abiding otherwise ... OK not exactly but hinted or eluded

 

[Quixote]

Suggesting a new category or thread around here is like wrapping your lips around a high voltage wire. I vote yes, however, because it's a good idea and change is a good thing to embrace. On the other hand, I'd like to see an exception if Alfred E. Newman or the Family Guy passes.

 

[Maxiton]

It struck me that putting all non-cycling related deaths into one giant thread was the digital equivalent of a mass grave - i.e., everybody gets shoveled into the same large hole, regardless of who they are, and there is no spot dedicated to any particular person and his(/her) life - which seemed to me to be both disrespectful and unworkable.

Thus I posted here that I wasn't fond of this idea and my post appears to have been deleted . . . ?

 

[AussieGoddess]

what exactly is hte problem with having a thread honoring each person?

If you dont like the person or dont think they should be discussed .... dont open the thread

 

[RedheadDane]

No! I think it's pretty cool that this forum creates obituaries for basically everyone!
I don't check them out but that doesn't mean I don't think it's cool they are made.

As some people have already touched upon why make specific threads for cyclists but not for non-cyclists? Yes, I know this is a cycling forum but then again; this is the cycling-free-zone... jumpling all the non-cyclists together in one thread would, at least to me, somehow imply that they are less than cyclists.

 

[Tank Engine]

Due to the extreme difference in the nature of the discussion in the three most recent obituary threads, they should be kept separate.

 

[Martin318is]

It struck me that putting all non-cycling related deaths into one giant thread was the digital equivalent of a mass grave - i.e., everybody gets shoveled into the same large hole, regardless of who they are, and there is no spot dedicated to any particular person and his(/her) life - which seemed to me to be both disrespectful and unworkable.

Thus I posted here that I wasn't fond of this idea and my post appears to have been deleted . . . ?

Yes it was - "I'm not fond of mass graves" is hardly an appropriate one liner to throw around in this context.

 

[pedaling squares]

No. It's a general discussion section of a cycling forum, not the UN, and let's not pretend that we're important enough to require strict protocol. Create threads on whatever you want within the goalposts set by the mods and natural selection will dictate whether or not it remains topical. If the conversation about your favourite dead guy leads to a debate on his/her accomplishments, failures, ideology, or hairstyle, well that's just what happens when people communicate. If a crop of famous folk drop off simultaneously and the Cafe begins to look like an obituary, ride it out or stay out of the Cafe for a while. We do not need a new rule for every contingency.

 

[oldborn]

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[Quixote]

It struck me that putting all non-cycling related deaths into one giant thread was the digital equivalent of a mass grave - i.e., everybody gets shoveled into the same large hole, regardless of who they are, and there is no spot dedicated to any particular person and his(/her) life - which seemed to me to be both disrespectful and unworkable.

Thus I posted here that I wasn't fond of this idea and my post appears to have been deleted . . . ?

Yah Max, the mass grave allegory is a tough one. I think I want to flip-flop my position. Is that permitted? This isn't the Iowa primary or anything.
"I was for it before I was against it."