Peaking or consistent domination - what's more suspicious?

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Re: Peaking or consistent domination - what's more suspiciou

Peaking is suspicious if only because not natural, even regardless of clinic.

Johan Vansummeren in a recent interview claims that intensive training camps are "gulag"-like and the level of form they get from that gulag, they cannot reiterate in the same ear. It means they are obsessed with one particular race, guess which one.

But also implied that fifteen years ago such gulag-like training camps did not exist because unnecessary. They just needed to inject.

Of course consistent riders like Jalabert or Valverde are exposed blood dopers but it does not change the suspicious aspect of peaks.

Before blood dope generalised, riders did not have such form level gaps. It is less the case now since blood dope is less generalised. There's a historical correlation between blood doping and peaking. It's crystal clear.

 

[Rob27172]

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but it is more complicated.....there is now a vast (and expensive) bureaucracy built up at BC which depend on these medals...I've heard it less at these Games but at previous ones where the cyclist's talk isn't one of joy but of a job done. So for GB it isn't just the cyclist, it's everyone involved that knows that medals bring with it a continued cushy number at the manchester velodrone advising, say, on pillows

1 cyclist = 10 FTE [/quote]


So now not only are the brits the first people to come up with the "olympics are more special and valuable idea",
they are also the only ones to come up with "a payments based on results idea."

I do so hope you have only been watching sport for about 2 years because that is the only way to explain this complete stupidity which we will be kind and call naiveity

Brits are not the only ones who get more funding and more assistance based upon medal or potential medal count that has been happening in the rest of the world for decades - and actually the brits still as a government do not do it.
We only have it in the UK because of the lottery money. if people stopped buying lottery tickets then we would go back to the dark ages where we were before while many countries around the world would continue to do what they have done for years before the brits even thought about it, and build centres of excellence and fund coaches and support mechanisms for athletes.

Try going out and looking at sporting structures in other countries before you start to defend the british sporting infrastructure.

You will see very quickly why we were so far behind for so long.

 

[Rob27172]

Re: Peaking or consistent domination - what's more suspiciou

Peaking is suspicious if only because not natural, even regardless of clinic.

Johan Vansummeren in a recent interview claims that intensive training camps are "gulag"-like and the level of form they get from that gulag, they cannot reiterate in the same ear. It means they are obsessed with one particular race, guess which one.

But also implied that fifteen years ago such gulag-like training camps did not exist because unnecessary. They just needed to inject.

Of course consistent riders like Jalabert or Valverde are exposed blood dopers but it does not change the suspicious aspect of peaks.

Before blood dope generalised, riders did not have such form level gaps. It is less the case now since blood dope is less generalised. There's a historical correlation between blood doping and peaking. It's crystal clear.

An alternatrive to that explanation is that the training camps are where they push the riders and use that time (very often in a difficult to get to location) to ramp up the assistance for the program and get the riders up to a good HCT level. withouth the risk of being tested.

hence a two or three week stint locked away on mount teide, riding their little hearts out and getting "vitamin" injections every night knowing the testers are nowhere to be seen

IMO a slightly more sensible reason for the training camps they do now as opposed to needing them because they cant just blood dope during the tour.