Poll: Is Dave Brailsford's position safe at team Sky?

[Irondan]

The ship is sinking for Dave Brailsford, will he weather the storm?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features...-only-fuels-further-scepticism/#disqus_thread

 

[Catwhoorg]

I doubt he can weather this storm.

The obvious sacrificial lamb of Sutton is already gone, so his head is definitely on the block.

 

[Irondan]

It's not looking good so far, we'll see where he stands in a couple days when the smoke clears...

 

[King Boonen]

Honestly, I think he'll get away with it if the UKAD report comes back "clean".

 

[Irondan]

Re:

Honestly, I think he'll get away with it if the UKAD report comes back "clean".

Yep, and what are the odds that the UKAD report implicates DB as "dirty"? Whatever they are, I'd put money down that he comes up clean....

 

[King Boonen]

I'm pretty sure he will, I've basically given up on bike racing as a sport

 

[samhocking]

He's possessed by winning and performance. He'll simply use this as fuel, he's very much like Cavendish in that respect. Perhaps why there's always been so much friction between them too. Same pod basically.

 

[Electress]

He'll get away with it...there' just not enough of an appetite with TPTB to see Skyfall.

Unless there is a mole who provides something more. I live in hope that this is so.

 

[Jspear]

Re:

I'm pretty sure he will, I've basically given up on bike racing as a sport

Why the sad face? Sky has brought back credibility to cycling. They don't need to be part of the MPCC or anything like that. They possess within their organization a higher and more superior ethic.

 

[sniper]

Re:

He'll get away with it...there' just not enough of an appetite with TPTB to see Skyfall.

Unless there is a mole who provides something more. I live in hope that this is so.

The mole has already provided everything needed to take the house down. From Matt's writings it is easy to discern that he knows what was in the package and that it wasn't flumicil but an ordinary ped.

In 2012 there were three witnesses who said Sutton was a doper, but the journal, Daily Mail, couldn't mention his name for legal reasons.
As he just denied doping infront of parliament, it would be a massive story now.

Just saying there is more than enough out there to take down sky.
It's with the journos and the lawyers now.
Rest assured, lots of legal chess and string pulling going on behind the scenes atm.

 

[yaco]

Since when does an off the record briefing then becomes part of an article - We worry about the morality of cyclists and sports-people doping, though I am more worried about the morality of journalists.

 

[sniper]

Re:

Since when does an off the record briefing then becomes part of an article - We worry about the morality of cyclists and sports-people doping, though I am more worried about the morality of journalists.

then maybe look for a forum where that particular issue is tackled.

 

[sniper]

Re:

Honestly, I think he'll get away with it if the UKAD report comes back "clean".

Yes, but my bet is he'll still resign.
He'll get cleared, then resigns.
A bit like Sutton (who effectively got cleared).
Win win.

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

Honestly, I think he'll get away with it if the UKAD report comes back "clean".

Yes, but my bet is he'll still resign.
He'll get cleared, then resigns.
A bit like Sutton (who effectively got cleared).
Win win.

This. I reckon he'll weather it in the short term and then gradually step out of the limelight next season. Perhaps 'moving upstairs' to some kind of advisory role with less direct accountability.

 

[StryderHells]

Re: Re:

Honestly, I think he'll get away with it if the UKAD report comes back "clean".

Yes, but my bet is he'll still resign.
He'll get cleared, then resigns.
A bit like Sutton (who effectively got cleared).
Win win.

This. I reckon he'll weather it in the short term and then gradually step out of the limelight next season. Perhaps 'moving upstairs' to some kind of advisory role with less direct accountability.

Bingo! They won't officially sack him and instead the story will either be that he resigns or steps back to do other things.

 

[Strange Loop]

Re: Re:

This. I reckon he'll weather it in the short term and then gradually step out of the limelight next season. Perhaps 'moving upstairs' to some kind of advisory role with less direct accountability.

I think this is what's going to happen and it doesn't really matter if he's truly guilty or not. Damaged goods are damaged goods and should be removed from the public eye. It's also what usually happens with people in public places, once their credibility is lost and their persona becomes tainted, they'll step down or out of the limelight, no matter if the actual cause of that loss or taint was legit. Having a good, no, decent reputation is everything in a public position and once you've lost that, you're gone, no matter the cause.

In this case I suspect the cause is legit, though. This story reeks and, with no supporting evidence, I don't buy it.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Given the way cycling appears to work, they'll probably move Brailsford from running Sky to some prime post at the UCI.

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

Since when does an off the record briefing then becomes part of an article - We worry about the morality of cyclists and sports-people doping, though I am more worried about the morality of journalists.

then maybe look for a forum where that particular issue is tackled.

I am in the right forum - Your posts follow a theme of 'morality' and to make the cycling world a better place and by extension the world - Somehow you seem to have selective morality.

Do you really think Sky will close down ? After all their key sponsor is hardly recognised for their morality Very doubtful that Brailsford will move on - All it means is Sky will be more careful but they will go on winning races - Can see little if no change.

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

Honestly, I think he'll get away with it if the UKAD report comes back "clean".

Yes, but my bet is he'll still resign.
He'll get cleared, then resigns.
A bit like Sutton (who effectively got cleared).
Win win.

Do you believe the PR spin that Sutton resigned ? - He was sacked,though begrudgingly by BA.

 

[poupou]

Should I say that I'm worried with the morality of some posters here!

 

[Electress]

Re: Re:

This. I reckon he'll weather it in the short term and then gradually step out of the limelight next season. Perhaps 'moving upstairs' to some kind of advisory role with less direct accountability.

I think this is what's going to happen and it doesn't really matter if he's truly guilty or not. Damaged goods are damaged goods and should be removed from the public eye. It's also what usually happens with people in public places, once their credibility is lost and their persona becomes tainted, they'll step down or out of the limelight, no matter if the actual cause of that loss or taint was legit. Having a good, no, decent reputation is everything in a public position and once you've lost that, you're gone, no matter the cause.

In this case I suspect the cause is legit, though. This story reeks and, with no supporting evidence, I don't buy it.

I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but not now. Not the world of cycling, but look at Keith Vaz and politician of all classes too numerous to mention. People have merely to fade from public life for a bit and hey presto, they are rehabilitated. David Millar seems to have pulled off the 'doper to doping guru' by exploiting the 'redemption' narrative. Unless there's a lot more revealed, I reckon DB will step back temporarily before, as others point out, re-emerging as some kind of go-to-cycling guru, and this will not be mentioned again.

Wiggins I don't think will be untainted by the TUE affair, partly because he hasn't been an Establishment / institutional pet.

 

[Benotti69]

People are starting to talk, as was obvious from jiffybag story leak to Matt Lawton

but others too

Ken Matheson@kenem
@Scienceofsport Long statement going back 18yrs re. DB's lies, bullying, harassment, wrongful dismissal of staff, financial misconduct etc..

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

This. I reckon he'll weather it in the short term and then gradually step out of the limelight next season. Perhaps 'moving upstairs' to some kind of advisory role with less direct accountability.

I think this is what's going to happen and it doesn't really matter if he's truly guilty or not. Damaged goods are damaged goods and should be removed from the public eye. It's also what usually happens with people in public places, once their credibility is lost and their persona becomes tainted, they'll step down or out of the limelight, no matter if the actual cause of that loss or taint was legit. Having a good, no, decent reputation is everything in a public position and once you've lost that, you're gone, no matter the cause.

In this case I suspect the cause is legit, though. This story reeks and, with no supporting evidence, I don't buy it.

I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but not now. Not the world of cycling, but look at Keith Vaz and politician of all classes too numerous to mention. People have merely to fade from public life for a bit and hey presto, they are rehabilitated. David Millar seems to have pulled off the 'doper to doping guru' by exploiting the 'redemption' narrative. Unless there's a lot more revealed, I reckon DB will step back temporarily before, as others point out, re-emerging as some kind of go-to-cycling guru, and this will not be mentioned again.

Wiggins I don't think will be untainted by the TUE affair, partly because he hasn't been an Establishment / institutional pet.

If Sky fold and Brit Cycling are shown to be less than squeaky clean, cycling, the sport side might take a big hit and then so does Millar as he is promoting the various stuff in the UK market as that was the biggest growing market for cycling. It just might now collapse.

 

[sniper]

Re:

People are starting to talk, as was obvious from jiffybag story leak to Matt Lawton

but others too

Ken Matheson@kenem
@Scienceofsport Long statement going back 18yrs re. DB's lies, bullying, harassment, wrongful dismissal of staff, financial misconduct etc..

I thought he was a mastermind.

Matheson jumping ship and speaking out means things are pretty bad for DB and BC.

 

[Electress]

Re: Re:

This. I reckon he'll weather it in the short term and then gradually step out of the limelight next season. Perhaps 'moving upstairs' to some kind of advisory role with less direct accountability.

I think this is what's going to happen and it doesn't really matter if he's truly guilty or not. Damaged goods are damaged goods and should be removed from the public eye. It's also what usually happens with people in public places, once their credibility is lost and their persona becomes tainted, they'll step down or out of the limelight, no matter if the actual cause of that loss or taint was legit. Having a good, no, decent reputation is everything in a public position and once you've lost that, you're gone, no matter the cause.

In this case I suspect the cause is legit, though. This story reeks and, with no supporting evidence, I don't buy it.

I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but not now. Not the world of cycling, but look at Keith Vaz and politician of all classes too numerous to mention. People have merely to fade from public life for a bit and hey presto, they are rehabilitated. David Millar seems to have pulled off the 'doper to doping guru' by exploiting the 'redemption' narrative. Unless there's a lot more revealed, I reckon DB will step back temporarily before, as others point out, re-emerging as some kind of go-to-cycling guru, and this will not be mentioned again.

Wiggins I don't think will be untainted by the TUE affair, partly because he hasn't been an Establishment / institutional pet.

If Sky fold and Brit Cycling are shown to be less than squeaky clean, cycling, the sport side might take a big hit and then so does Millar as he is promoting the various stuff in the UK market as that was the biggest growing market for cycling. It just might now collapse.

Nah, Millar 'reformed doper' will merely be called upon to offer his unique insight into the revelations and what it means for the sport blah blah blah. He will intone his wisdom, express his disappointment, and probably be appointed to some task force to deal with it, assuming it gets that far.