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Pozzato, Hoste, Gusev not bad for Paris-Roubaux?

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jaylew said:
Not bad at all but still probably not good enough to win.

Cancellara || Boonen > Hoste && Gusev && Pozzato

Saxo have lost O'Grady and are going to be signing at least like 4 climbing specialists, so Canc might be more vulnerable next year.
 
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Depends on what he wants to do next year, really. If he truly wants all the monuments, perhaps 2011 is the year for the Ardennes.
 
taiwan said:
Saxo have lost O'Grady and are going to be signing at least like 4 climbing specialists, so Canc might be more vulnerable next year.

Spartacus pretty much won the race single-handedly this year. I don't think he needs a team if he's on that form again.

Paris-Roubaix doesn't strike me as a race won by the team; rather, it's won by the rider. If there's any one race left on the calendar that can claim that distinction, it's definitely Roubaix.

Which is why I love it! :D
 
Cancellara and Boonen still blow them away when they are in top form.
You can have the best outsiders, if you don't have the strongest guy in Paris Roubaix, you lose.

And @taiwan: team? what team? Cancellara solo-ed for 50km in Paris Roubaix. Who needs a team then? Any idiot who can keep him out of the wind in the first 150km will do. The last 100k he can do on his own.
 
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Look, I can't remember now how P-R played out before the selection was made, but a) teams are useful for making a pace to inhibit or bring back early escapes, and Saxo Bank were conspicuously on the front working. b) Not every team has the quality cobbles specialists, it's hard to tell what difference a less experienced team would have made. c) Next year it's a different race: if Canc were to get left alone too early, advantage could be taken this time.

It's a strong team, they did some of the work for the victory, they might not be able to do as much next time. Anyhow, the loss of Stuart O'Grady alone isn't going to be the end of Canc's cobbles campaign, but we don't know the extent of the changes yet.

Ok, you're right. he was that strong nothing would have made any difference.
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Cancellara and Boonen still blow them away when they are in top form.
You can have the best outsiders, if you don't have the strongest guy in Paris Roubaix, you lose.

And @taiwan: team? what team? Cancellara solo-ed for 50km in Paris Roubaix. Who needs a team then? Any idiot who can keep him out of the wind in the first 150km will do. The last 100k he can do on his own.
You're wrong there. Cancellara could win because everyone was marking Breschel :p
 
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I don't think Cancellara will be able to pull of this stunt again next season(soloing 50km from the finish)

If Cancellara attacks all you have to do is suck his wheel and blow him away 100 meters from the finish.

The only problem is that no one except Boonen can suck his wheel.

At the Ronde van Vlaanderen Boonen had a cramp in his leg and that's why Cancellara got away. And since he's the best time trial specialist in the world Boonen couldn't close the gap anymore. All Boonen needs to do is to pay more attention(instead of sitting at the back when Cancellara attacks in PR -,-") and suck Cancellara's wheel for the victory. Although it must be said, Cancellara >>>> Boonen this year.

No offence to any professional cyclist, but they'd have to be enormous idiots to not mark Cancellara next year. There's other cyclists out there then Boonen, but I guess they like to mark him instead of helping him close a gap I suppose. That's why most -active- cobbled specialists besides Boonen and Cancellara never win anything important(in the important classics). Sucks to be them I guess.
 
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Wonder who Quick Step can get. One would think they'd replace Devolder with another fairly big time rider: someone who can win, so needs to be marked.
 
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Waaay to early to be talking about Roubaix

If anyone lets Fabian loose in 2011, well shame on them.Teams help, but that is such a cluster f&#k of a race, you simply can't predict a winner.
Thats why it is and allways be the single best race of the year.
Pray for rain!
 
El Pistolero said:
The only problem is that no one except Boonen can suck his wheel.

At the Ronde van Vlaanderen Boonen had a cramp in his leg and that's why Cancellara got away. And since he's the best time trial specialist in the world Boonen couldn't close the gap anymore. All Boonen needs to do is to pay more attention(instead of sitting at the back when Cancellara attacks in PR -,-") and suck Cancellara's wheel for the victory. Although it must be said, Cancellara >>>> Boonen this year.

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This made me laugh.

Ofcourse you get cramp in your leg when you are going above your limit trying to follow someone.

And Boonen has literally 10000000000000000000000000000000 excuses like that after a race.

He choses each race of classics like:
"My chain wasn't working properly in the sprint"
"My back was a little sore today so I couldn't go at 100%"
"My tire deflated in the last 200m"
"My pedals couldn't handle the pressure I put on them so I flew out of them"
"My brakes where coming against the wheel so I had a more resistance"

And his best one to date
"My mechanic didn't inflate my tire enough so I had more road resistance so I performed 1,5% chance less than possible, that's why i didn't win"

:rolleyes:
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
This made me laugh.

Ofcourse you get cramp in your leg when you are going above your limit trying to follow someone.

And Boonen has literally 10000000000000000000000000000000 excuses like that after a race.

He choses each race of classics like:
"My chain wasn't working properly in the sprint"
"My back was a little sore today so I couldn't go at 100%"
"My tire deflated in the last 200m"
"My pedals couldn't handle the pressure I put on them so I flew out of them"
"My brakes where coming against the wheel so I had a more resistance"

And his best one to date
"My mechanic didn't inflate my tire enough so I had more road resistance so I performed 1,5% chance less than possible, that's why i didn't win"

:rolleyes:

When did he say that? Words fail me.
 
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Not bad, but if it was Big 3 (Pozzato, Hoste, Gusev) they realy can win, Atack Hoste, then atack Gusev, then atack Pozzato 20 km ago and he win at sprint with Cancelara
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
This made me laugh.

Ofcourse you get cramp in your leg when you are going above your limit trying to follow someone.

And Boonen has literally 10000000000000000000000000000000 excuses like that after a race.

He choses each race of classics like:
"My chain wasn't working properly in the sprint"
"My back was a little sore today so I couldn't go at 100%"
"My tire deflated in the last 200m"
"My pedals couldn't handle the pressure I put on them so I flew out of them"
"My brakes where coming against the wheel so I had a more resistance"

And his best one to date
"My mechanic didn't inflate my tire enough so I had more road resistance so I performed 1,5% chance less than possible, that's why i didn't win"

:rolleyes:

If he was going above his limit then why didn't the group behind Boonen come any closer to him? He even made the gap between him and the group behind him bigger. But he was over his limit right? -,-"

You can have cramp in your leg for different reasons, like not drinking enough water,etc.

I've had a lot of cramps in my legs already when not going over my limit at all.

And it's not an excuse when you actually had a cramp in your leg.

And since when is what I say what Boonen said? After the race he said the best man won and that he didn't mind losing to someone that could pull of what Cancellara did.


Sour grapes or something for Boonen? Last year I saw Cancellara almost crying for losing the time trial in the Tour. Bet he wasn't complaining in this year's time trial when the weather was changing.
 
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Cancellara can seemingly win the classics at will now, Tom is going to have to bring his AAA game if he's going to win flanders or roubaix next year. Hoste is a nearly man, he'll be up there but doesnt have a good enough sprint. Pozzato has a good chance if he has someone to work for him and he stays free from illness. Hopefully Gilbert can challenge in flanders next year, would love to see him on the top step but i dont think he will come to flanders in red hot form until he has won liege, so we ll be waiting for a year or two yet. Or at least I will.
 
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alexanderplatz said:
Cancellara can seemingly win the classics at will now, Tom is going to have to bring his AAA game if he's going to win flanders or roubaix next year. Hoste is a nearly man, he'll be up there but doesnt have a good enough sprint. Pozzato has a good chance if he has someone to work for him and he stays free from illness. Hopefully Gilbert can challenge in flanders next year, would love to see him on the top step but i dont think he will come to flanders in red hot form until he has won liege, so we ll be waiting for a year or two yet. Or at least I will.

I wouldn't be so quick to make a statement like that if I were you.

It's not because you won Paris-Roubaix and the Ronde van Vlaanderen in one season that you're going to do it every season. Everything can happen in a race like PR or the RvV.

It's not like it's the Time Trial world championship or something here lol. Might as well cancel that race and give the title to Cancellara.
 
roundabout said:
I have a feeling that Cancellara won't have much of a team for the cobbled classics next year so he will have other goals.

If there are no riders in überform then the Katusha trio has a good chance of making at least podium through numbers.

Cancellara may not have this year's form (he seems to have on years and off years in the classics), but Boonen is pretty much guaranteed to be in top shape for Flanders & Roubaix next year. He's there every year.

But we'll have to see what kind of form Pippo is carrying--I think he's the real wild card. I hope he's strong and Hoste is at least domestique-strong. These two in a finale with Boonen, Spartacus, Hushovd, Ballan (a guy can hope!), and Flecha would be spectacular!
 
roundabout said:
I have a feeling that Cancellara won't have much of a team for the cobbled classics next year so he will have other goals.

If there are no riders in überform then the Katusha trio has a good chance of making at least podium through numbers.

He will target and win either LBL, Fleche or Amstel next year.