Proposed doping amnesty for pro cycling...

[Berzin]

The idea of a type of "Truth and Reconciliation" committee for pro cyclists who doped is apparently going to be bandied about when the UCI meets later this month.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-to-introduce-doping-amnesty

Questions-

1) Is this a cynical ploy by Fat Pat McQuaid to save his job?

2) Would this keep Armstrong from ratting out his peeps at the UCI? Would he come clean to save his Tour wins?

3) Since McQuaid became head of the UCI a year after "The Cyclism"in 2006, would this be enough to distance himself from the majority of the Armstrong doping shenanigans?

4) Who in their right mind would come forward with information, especially if the majority of riders from Armstrong's era have or are close to t?

5) Would this amnesty apply to the riders who may be sanctioned by the USADA in the Armstrong case?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

The only way this makes any sense (to me) is if riders can be proven to have doped at one point in time or at least fear that this might be the case. If neither of these hold true then why would you come forward?

 

[the big ring]

The idea of a type of "Truth and Reconciliation" committee for pro cyclists who doped is apparently going to be bandied about when the UCI meets later this month.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-to-introduce-doping-amnesty

This is the same thread as here.

 

[Maxiton]

We already have a thread for this idea/suggestion

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=18332

And then a subsequent thread for when McQuaid started jumping on the bandwagon

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=18332

Do we really need a third thread for it? Any reason this can't go in one of the other threads?

EDIT: I honestly don't know why truth & reconciliation / amnesty requires more than one thread. I think this and the McQuaid thread should be merged with the main thread on the topic.

 

[Maxiton]

This is the same thread as here.

Beat me to it.

 

[mewmewmew13]

In before close

 

[Berzin]

If this thread is a repeat of others, instead of merging them just close this one.

 

[skippy]

Item#24 of thread # 1019972 dated 28/8/12 , such a long time ago now , offered a few ideas on implementing an " Amnesty "which people chose to ignore . More ideas were expressed in Parrabuddy over a longer time span .

Months ago you people started an " item re " LA " " addressed to Pres. Obama that failed to gain support . BUT with the weight of numbers in the forum , a similar approach could be used to get Pres. Obama to exercise his ability to control an approach to WADA & IOC which would force them to act Worldwide and in every Sporting Federation , regardless of the legalities currently existing in their Countries .

So many countries now treat " Doping " as a criminal matter that only the IOC through the country NOC 's can get established a " ONE TIME ONLY Window of Opportunity " . With Pres. OBAMA establishing this in the USA , most if not all other countries would follow suit .

This " Amnesty must be for ALL SPORT " since it will be the " ONCE and ONLY " op. for athletes( past & present) and their legitimate staff ! Suppliers of " Supplements " can look to their future with dread . Of course there will be some who have engaged in " Criminal Activity " that will have to risk their chances .

Most Athletes ( past & present ) in Sport will have crossed the line , or so JV seems to suggest , at some time , and thus meeting the imposed deadline with no penalty on ANY DISCLOSURE will be fairly simple . The problem will be that the " Amnesty " will only work IF it is conducted by WADA & IOC , not by the various Sports Federations .

Disclosure will be to the " Central Clearing House " , which will assign an investigator from an outside Sport Federation drawn by lot / random selection . Thus there will be Aussie Cycling Athletes meeting with eg : Equestrian Delegates from Israrl & GB Cycle Athletes being investigated by Weighlifting Delegates from Thailand .

ONLY when the " Legal Jeapardy " is lifted can Team Owners , Team DS , Team Doctors and UCI Personnel be able to make FULL DISCLOSURE ! Does it really matter if a few escape their " just Deserts " , when the future can be made so much safer for the majority ?

Failing to meet the deadline will result in Lifetime Bans from any Sporting Related Activity . As mentioned in " item #24 " a second deadline will be needed to review the " Published List of Athletes complying with the Amnesty " ! Those not on this WebSite will bring down ALL who worked with them in any way unless they apply to the " Central Clearing House " to determine why the " Athlete's name has not been published . Should they find that the Athlete has not applied for " Amnesty " then to avoid " Lifetime Bans " themselves and their Co workers , they will ALL have to make full disclosure of the activities in which they were joined with that Athlete .

Certainly a cumbersome process to set up BUT who wants to revisit another " Festina " moment further down the road ?

Can Cycling News Management set up the approach to Pres. Obama so that ALL CNF visitors can subscribe and with their friends find the 125000 needed to move the matter onto the White House Agenda ?

So far NOONE of CNF Management has shown an interest , although i agree with the idea of ALL CNF contributors going to their Cycling Clubs and setting up at IMMEDIATE CLAMOUR such as that this next week ALL DELEGATES TO THE 19-20 Sept meeting will not fail to notice !

ONLY FEAR OF LOSING THEIR PLACE ON THE " GRAVY TRAIN " WILL CAUSE THEM TO ACT AT THIS POINT !