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Savio jumps on the Manifesto bandwagon

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As much as it is a farce it's all good. More pressure on UCI to change... And not only from english speaking teams.
 
Dear Wiggo said:
I agree with his stance on team-mgt sanctions rather than just rider sanctions for doping.

Can you provide further info regarding your concerns with what he is saying?

Perhaps you need to broaden your level of "expertise"?
Not exactly minor. It was big news last year.
Also much on this site:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/savio-caught-up-in-italian-doping-investigation

Obviously, he got off, but he not exactly shy when it comes to signing returning dopers.
Emanuele Sella likes his set up.

Nice Ferrari find, btw.;)
 
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laziali said:
Cause he's a massive hypocrite. Hence the comment about looking in mirror. For example. http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/10651/CONI-requests-four-year-ban-for-Gianni-Savio-in-doping-investigation.aspx

I think you are a troll, haven´t you seen that Gianni was totally aquitted in this matter?? No riders to my knnowledge have been suspended for doping during their time with Gianni Savio, but agree that Gianni a lot of times give suspended riders a second chanse. But with a lot of conditions, as many doesn´t have.

In the matter with Franco Pellizotti, he was also aquitted by the CONI (It. olympic comi.) but UCI took it further to CAS who followed the UCI claims.

You all say a lot about Gianni without any knowledge about him as person, which I find most ridicilous.

/Fritz
 
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Cykelbloggar said:
I think you are a troll, haven´t you seen that Gianni was totally aquitted in this matter?? No riders to my knnowledge have been suspended for doping during their time with Gianni Savio, but agree that Gianni a lot of times give suspended riders a second chanse. But with a lot of conditions, as many doesn´t have.

In the matter with Franco Pellizotti, he was also aquitted by the CONI (It. olympic comi.) but UCI took it further to CAS who followed the UCI claims.

You all say a lot about Gianni without any knowledge about him as person, which I find most ridicilous.

/Fritz

You might be the troll.
 
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It seems to me that Savio thinks everybody is ignorant. According to the Gazzetta, the Padua investigation has revealed that Pellizzotti's salary payments were going straight to T&F Management, the front for Michele Ferrari's doping/money laundering organization. The fake contract through which these payments were made was not registered with UCI; the investigators have found the contract between T&F Management and Androni-Giocattoli, and it's different from the one on file at the UCI.

So, to begin with, Savio is a liar, because he sent the UCI one contract to put on file, but paid out to another one so as to make sure that Ferrari was getting his $$$$ to dope up Pellizzotti. To continue, he is dishonest, because looking at his criticism of the UCI, he is saying that it is poorly managed because (Savio dixit) Pellizzotti was acquitted by CONI and the UCI shouldn't have appealed to CAS. In other words, what he resents is that the UCI had the gall to pursue the Pellizzotti case all the way to CAS. He is not criticizing the UCI for failing to pursue doping, he is criticizing the UCI for pursuing doping.

The antidoping manifesto is a red herring. It implies no structural change at the UCI, no structural change in antidoping enforcement--it is the proposal of those who want the status quo.

As for the accusation that the UCI is applying the rules as they wish, Savio needs to be careful what he asks for. Androni-Giocattoli's license could be withdrawn right now, under any number of articles of the UCI rules. A fake contract, not registered with the UCI, used to funnel cash to a notorious dope doctor who has been banned from cycling, and of course, being used to evade the payment of taxes. Let's check just one part of the UCI rules:

2.15.011
The ethical criterion takes account inter alia of the respect by the team or its members for:
a) the UCI regulations, inter alia as regards anti-doping, sporting conduct and the image of cycling;
b) its contractual obligations;
c) its legal obligations, particularly as regards payment of taxes, social security and keeping
accounts;
d) the principles of transparency and good faith.

Ooooops ... Savio: FAIL. Logical conclusion: Savio is a liar (violates (d)) and a tax evader (violates (c)) who submits fake contracts (violates (b)) and damages the image of cycling (violates (a)). In other words, violates all ethical criteria for holding a cycling license.

You know, maybe Savio is right, and the UCI is "poorly managed, ... applying rules as they wish." Perhaps the UCI should begin applying its rules, starting with the immediate withdrawal of the Androni-Giocattoli license.

Oh, no, wait, the UCI won't eliminate whole corrupt teams because they don't want all those cyclists, managers, etc. out of work ... the UCI is afraid of the "damage to cycling" ... so they won't enforce the rules against Savio ... and Savio can continue to spout nonsense until the Padua investigation rolls right over him.
 
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Mellow Velo said:

Next time, do more search: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/results/2001/apr01/apr07news.shtml

Ok that members of the Team has used dope, I didn´t know this, but as you also can see did Gianni fire the doctor .. no charges against Gianni what so ever, if you starts to believe everything you read on the Internet you will have problems. Why don´t you use Wikipedia as source the next time?

/Fritz
 
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Cykelbloggar said:
Next time, do more search: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/results/2001/apr01/apr07news.shtml

Ok that members of the Team has used dope, I didn´t know this, but as you also can see did Gianni fire the doctor .. no charges against Gianni what so ever, if you starts to believe everything you read on the Internet you will have problems. Why don´t you use Wikipedia as source the next time?

/Fritz

Is this research any good?
http://english.gazzetta.it/More_spo...nk-accounts-fake-contracts-912946609743.shtml

This is what happened in the case of Scarponi, who is resident in Italy, but having a contract with a Colombian team (Savio's Diquigiovanni-Androni) in 2009, he managed to avoid paying tax on almost the entire amount of his contract by transferring it temporarily from Monaco before depositing it in a Swiss bank account, paying just 6% in taxes in the Principality". The wiretaps also "reveal that Scimone arranged the first contact with Ferrari".

Yes, Scarponi is doing the deal with Ferrari, but Savio still has to buy the image management contract back from Scimone, so you can't claim Savio does not know what is going on...
 
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Cykelbloggar said:
Next time, do more search: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/results/2001/apr01/apr07news.shtml

Ok that members of the Team has used dope, I didn´t know this, but as you also can see did Gianni fire the doctor .. no charges against Gianni what so ever, if you starts to believe everything you read on the Internet you will have problems. Why don´t you use Wikipedia as source the next time?

/Fritz

Go away troll. No one is impressed.