Should the Australian natinoal Road Race Circuit change?

[auscyclefan94]

Should the Australian National Road Race Circuit change from Buninyong to another course? Some riders are 'whinging' about the course being too tough. Mark Renshaw, has said he will sign a petition if it is not changed for next year.

I personally have no problem with the Buningyong course. A sprinter can and has won on this course in the past and personally I think it is a great all round course. Just about every other nationals course around the world is quite hilly & longer than the australian nationals.

 

[Night Rider]

Yes, absolute no brainer.

Not only should it be on a different course each year it should change states every year as well. It is just absurd to keep the national championships of a sport with characteristics of road cycling on one course for ten years.

Just for clarification my answer was for this question: Should the Australian natinoal Road Race Circuit change?

Your other question: Is the Bunyinyong Australian national Road Race Circuit too hard? Answer No

 

[Ferminal]

Should be a different place/course each year.

The course isn't too hard, but the course should vary year to year to suit different types of riders.

 

[Martin318is]

Most of the riders that think its too hard have no business thinking of riding a Nationals (not talking about Renshaw etc here - more so about the local hacks that are thinking of riding).

I agree that it is a bit unfair to have it in the one state and make everyone else travel every year however it was great that the Masters track worlds were in Manchester every year. Made it easier to plan for next year because you already knew.

 

[woodie]

I think it's a great course but I also think it needs to change every year to make it different. There are plently of places around aus where we could have the race and make it so it suits different people. Ten years in one place is too long for something like nationals.

Should it move yes.

Is it too hard, for some people it is, for other people its perfect.

Maybe you should make sure that the question you put as the title is the same as the poll question so people aren't mislead

 

[brianf7]

It was moved to Adelaid a few years ago but it came back to Ballarat because no one was able to run it properly at this time of year.
Its holliday time and almost impossible to get a permit to shut down roads for 5 days.

Cost effective racing is what the organiser and Cycling Australia need It was run at Portarlington for several years also in Canbera.

Personaly each state should have a go at running it as it used to be.

 

[Sasquatch]

Providing there is enough laps for the crowd, then that's fine.

But if they do the hill 8 times instead of 16, then it will be boring for the crowd.

 

[brianf7]

McEwan won at Ballarat in a two man breakaway dont know how much he paid O'neil to work for him but he won.

Just need to be in form at wrong time of year.

At one point in time we didnt have too many top riders in europe so I think they shared it around Vogles ,O"Gradey have all had a win

 

[Spare Tyre]

Yes, absolute no brainer.

Not only should it be on a different course each year it should change states every year as well. It is just absurd to keep the national championships of a sport with characteristics of road cycling on one course for ten years.

Just for clarification my answer was for this question: Should the Australian natinoal Road Race Circuit change?

Your other question: Is the Bunyinyong Australian national Road Race Circuit too hard? Answer No

Ditto. .....

Even if they must keep it in Ballarat/Buninyong they could come up with a range of courses so that over a number of years all types of riders get a crack at things.

 

[movingtarget]

Yes, it should change every year or every few years. Mixing it up a bit always makes it more interesting for the spectators and the riders. Give another city a go at hosting the titles.

 

[woodie]

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/ride...road-titles-as-ridiculous-20110107-19iul.html

Interesting article about the championships being open and also relates to whether the course should change

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Got to be honest, I've never paid any attention to the Aussie nationals. I didn't even know they were held on the same parcours every year. Seriously? You have a national Tour and the national Championships in the same place, on the same parcours every year? Unbelievable.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Got to be honest, I've never paid any attention to the Aussie nationals. I didn't even know they were held on the same parcours every year. Seriously? You have a national Tour and the national Championships in the same place, on the same parcours every year? Unbelievable.

They did move it around to other places but firstly the areas had a hard time with the road closures especially because it is out long holiday period and secondly the crowds are a big issue as Bunyinyong always has got great crowds. For the national criterium championships there were quite a lot of people especially when Bunyinyong is around a 2hr drive from melbourne.

 

[Moondance]

Meh... It shouldn't be changed because sprinters are whining and moaning about the course as it is being to hard. It is, after all, the nationals, and winning it shouldn't be easy.

That said, it is nice to change it up every now and again. I mean, until fairly recently the Dutch nationals had a habit of staying in one place for quite a while. For most of my early childhood there were always in Meerssen (close to Amstel Gold territory)... And even though the parcours was always pretty good, it still got a little boring near the end of the run. A few years back they made the terrible mistake of putting the nationals in pancake flat Rotterdam for like three years running, and it was no good. It wasn't even that it would always finish a sprint (if memory serves it was only a sprint the one of the times). After the Rotterdam debacle the nationals have been moving around each year again, and I look forward to it once more. Familiarity can breed contempt.

Even if Buninyong (and Victoria as a whole I guess) is the de faco home of Australian road cycling, and where fans are guaranteed, how hard is it to move a 15km circuit around, even if its only 100km down the road. It would spice things up. So i vote no to "too hard" but yes to change.

 

[Tuarts]

Unbelievable! Square peg doesnrt fit in a rounf hole the same as a square one.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Yes, absolute no brainer.

Not only should it be on a different course each year it should change states every year as well. It is just absurd to keep the national championships of a sport with characteristics of road cycling on one course for ten years.

Just for clarification my answer was for this question: Should the Australian natinoal Road Race Circuit change?

Your other question: Is the Bunyinyong Australian national Road Race Circuit too hard? Answer No

this.

it isn't too hard, renshaw should grow a pair (i think he's been taking pr lessons from cav). But I agree it should change locations.

 

[auscyclefan94]

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it isn't too hard, renshaw should grow a pair (i think he's been taking pr lessons from cav). But I agree it should change locations.

You going tommorow?

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

You going tommorow?

no chance.

 

[heinkel12]

It comes down to who is prepared to promote the event on such a scale and at the moment only Caribou Publications is prepared to do it and they get their sponsorship for the Championship out of Ballarat. If McEwan wants it somewhere else maybe he should do the hard yards and find sponsors and people to run it for him on a different course.