Should Theo Bos be suspended for this?

[Cartesian Centaur]

Theo bos suspended for one month.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bos-suspended-for-impey-incident

fair result i guess. needed some sort of punishment, maybe lucky just to get a month.
has been getting some good results too, heard a rumor he might make it to the pro team next season, wonder if this will pull any weight in thier decision.

Seems fair enough to me too (and Robbie McEwen). It will be interesting to see if he goes to the pro squad, it certainly wouldn't hurt them to have another sprinter (Brown doesn't quite seem to do the business somehow).

 

[Tusher]

Did he give any explanation at all for why he grabbed Impey?

I feel he should be out of racing for as long as Impey will be.

 

[Anonymous]

Did he give any explanation at all for why he grabbed Impey?

I feel he should be out of racing for as long as Impey will be.

I think it was a last millisecond impulse to hold himself upright.

I saw a guy pull someone in front of himself to take a bullet once. They guy did take the shot. Fortunately he lived. It was completely out of character and he felt terrible about it. Instinctive self preservation. Evolution is brutal.

Still, I think the punishment is fair.

 

[Anonymous]

so 15 august to 14th of september...

now if i knew where the hell CN had put the calender i could see what he misses... anything important that he would have been in for,..

im guessing that rabo would have sent him on the contintal squad to the tour of britain.. and possibly the tour of ireland if rabo send a squad out...
Thats those two ******ed...

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I feel he should be out of racing for as long as Impey will be.

That's what I feel would be most fair, but impractical to administer.

At least he is facing some suspension, and that's good. People that were calling for him banned for life, that was a bit much I think. And I'm a big Impey supporter.

To me what Bos did was grossly negligent. As one who used to race a lot, it was poor judgment by riding himself into a compromising position and getting boxed in. There was nothing Impey or anyone else did. Bos grabbing Impey's jersey was outrageous and done out of foolishness, desperation and possibly inexperience, but not on purpose to crash Impey. Though I do understand why Daryl is still pretty upset about it.

I haven't heard anything from Impey in about three weeks, when he was just getting onto the bike and doing light spinning, but still had a lot of therapy to go. He did say he hadn't forgot about Bos, and was upset at all the people saying it was actually his fault. He said he planned to have some strong words for Bos, but gave no indication he'd actually try to crash the guy.

Impey is one of the rising stars in the sport, and in a couple of years I could see him winning something like the Tour of Ireland or Milan-San Remo. He's a great sprinter, and can climb a little too. Plus, he's a supporter of BikePure. Let's hope he can recover.

 

[Anonymous]

Impey is one of the rising stars in the sport, and in a couple of years I could see him winning something like the Tour of Ireland or Milan-San Remo. He's a great sprinter, and can climb a little too. Plus, he's a supporter of BikePure. Let's hope he can recover.

The overhead video shows how badly aligned the barriers were.

 

[Anonymous]

The overhead video shows how badly aligned the barriers were.

youre in a minority if you dont think it was thuggish or neglegent..

i think it was both personallly

 

[Anonymous]

youre in a minority if you dont think it was thuggish or neglegent..

i think it was both personallly

Do not think it was thuggish.

You could argue negligent. No way he should have grabbed him but panicked instinctual actions can sometime be bizarre. It was a terrible crash.

They do a better job of aligning the barriers at my local crits. That was negligent.

 

[Irish2009]

When it happened I watched it continiously until I realised that Bos tried throw Impey into the barriers, the more I look at it the more Bos's excuse is rubbished. The barriers were misaligned BUT not where Bos grabbed Impey, there was no sign of Bos falling and my own feeling is Bos was annoyed that Impey was in his way coming onto a sprint. Impey did move around the bunch a fair bit in the last few km as it was a bit of crazy sprint, but theres no excuse for endangering another riders life.

 

[LugHugger]

the majority of posters here and elsewhere believe that Bos acted unprofessionally and negligently. why on earth is his sanction so lenient?

 

[Anonymous]

the majority of posters here and elsewhere believe that Bos acted unprofessionally and negligently. why on earth is his sanction so lenient?

The crash was to terrible and taking out the race leader was so bad they had to do something. I agree with that.

But they must believe there were mitigating factors that make it hard to determine and punish intent. If they'd believed what some here to the sanction would have been much tougher.

Does Bos have some bad reputation I don't know about?

 

[Cartesian Centaur]

Does Bos have some bad reputation I don't know about?

If anything he has the opposite.

 

[BroDeal]

youre in a minority if you dont think it was thuggish or neglegent..

i think it was both personallly

I think that is a bunch of crap. The video makes it look like Bos threw Impey in front of him, but the physics don't support it. It is like people looking at the Zabruder film and thinking Kennedy must have been shot from the front because his head snaps backward. To me it looks like Bos just grabbed Impey and held on as he started to go down. As Impey was suddenly dragged down, it merely looks like he had been thrown by Bos.

The authorities are only acting because of misplaced outrage. That is not a good precedent. Such a decisionis best left to those in control at the time. I cannot say that I am unhappy with the decision. Bos taking his hands off the bars was wrong but it was not necessarily thuggish.

 

[Greyhound Velo]

My reaction when I first saw this was the same as most here: Ban Bos. However, after hearing his side of what happened and looking at the video many times in slow motion, I don't think he was intentionally trying to take Impey out. Watch this from about the 26 second point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf-TuKGyDwI&NR=1

-You can see that Bos is boxed in and the barriers are not straight, they are closing off his line from the left.
-He puts his hand on Impey's side with his arm straight out, apparently to keep Impey from moving left. It doesn't look like he actually pushes him.
-Through all of this, Impey holds his line perfectly, there is no indication that he is chopping Bos at all, but Bos puts his hand on him to make sure he doesn't move left. (This is fairly common in track sprinting, where there are no barriers and no other riders to be affected. Hell, I've head-butted guys to get them to move over, this is pretty mild by comparison. Bos just needs to break his track habits if he's going to sprint on the road.)
-Almost immediately after he gets his hand on Impey, Bos appears to hit the foot of one of the barriers and loses control.
-In the split-second before he goes down, his instinctive reaction is to grab something to hold himself up, in this case Impey.
-The rest is more obvious: Bos goes down and takes Impey with him, although I really don't think it was premeditated, it was just a knee-jerk reaction to hold himself up that caused Bos to pull Impey down.
-All of the above happens in about 3 seconds, so there isn't time to think, it's all "brain stem" reaction stuff.

So I've changed my mind a bit, I don't think Bos was intentionally trying to take Impey out. Still, it was a poor decision to put his hand out in the first place, and I think a 1 month time-out is a fair reprimand that will hopefully see Bos start thinking like a roadie and get over his old track ways.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

As I get tired of repeating myself, I'm going to stand by what I said on Page 1, here.

And in analyzing Bos actions, I'll stand by what I said on Page 14, here.

 

[180mmCrank]

I think that is a bunch of crap. The video makes it look like Bos threw Impey in front of him, but the physics don't support it. It is like people looking at the Zabruder film and thinking Kennedy must have been shot from the front because his head snaps backward. To me it looks like Bos just grabbed Impey and held on as he started to go down. As Impey was suddenly dragged down, it merely looks like he had been thrown by Bos.

The authorities are only acting because of misplaced outrage. That is not a good precedent. Such a decisionis best left to those in control at the time. I cannot say that I am unhappy with the decision. Bos taking his hands off the bars was wrong but it was not necessarily thuggish.

I agree the physics does not support any notion that he threw Impey. Taking his hands off the bars - not a clever thing to do. And agree with stuff about the barriers not helping...it was an accident.

Just all seems a bit late in the day and after the fact to be doing this now

 

[Anonymous]

As I get tired of repeating myself, I'm going to stand by what I said on Page 1, here.

And in analyzing Bos actions, I'll stand by what I said on Page 14, here.

and i agree with 90% of what you say, except to add the guy is a thug...

the better video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8K_7bJQaaI

Even Mr Impey has seen that one, and he still hasnt changed his opinion..

 

[LugHugger]

The crash was to terrible and taking out the race leader was so bad they had to do something. I agree with that.

But they must believe there were mitigating factors that make it hard to determine and punish intent. If they'd believed what some here to the sanction would have been much tougher.

Does Bos have some bad reputation I don't know about?

I'm not aware of any previous as far as Bos is concerned. It strikes me that if they are going to sanction him that one month seems to be a bit of a cop out. After all, Impey was seriously injured and this was no ordinary racing/riding accident. Now, I'm not advocating that the sanction should have been for life. We've all done stupid things on a bike. But Bos is a professional and a world champion and should know better. Imo, Bos should have been banned for the remainder of the road season. And they should have made the decision two months ago.

 

[craig1985]

Maybe next time Bos is in a race and Barloworld are in it, the Barloworld boys should wait to he his near the edge of the road and all start moving over in his direction and force him off the road and keep on riding as if nothing had happened.

 

[Cloxxki]

Maybe next time Bos is in a race and Barloworld are in it, the Barloworld boys should wait to he his near the edge of the road and all start moving over in his direction and force him off the road and keep on riding as if nothing had happened.

Nice. But he's pull at least 3 of them with him

Some measure seems in order, and missing the after-season won't hurt him too much I suppose. He can train on the track a bit? Season's been long for him anyway, as a first-year novice.

 

[Tusher]

I read that Robbie Hunter and a couple of his mates stormed round to Bos's hotel when they realised how serious Impey's injuries were. And it wasn't to ask Theo how he was.


I just feel a longer ban should be imposed. Maybe til the end of the season.

BTW, can anyone tell me if, when the UCI ban a cyclist, that ban includes ALL cycle events, ie road, track, mountain and BMX, or just in the discipline where the incident occurred?

 

[mickkk]

Wow what a race! I will definately consider going to this next year. Id never heard of this race before. The chaos seemed to begin around the 2 min mark in the video with a green bloke giving his team mate a sling on the inside.

Lots of pushing and shoving prior to that and one head b.u.t.t. that I could see. Fantastic stuff!

Looked like Teo was indeed heading for the barriers and fended off the yellow. The commentator on the video is a fool, he didnt sling him into the barriers, it was a clash of wheels that did the real damage.

Must have been some decent prize money involved for a scramble like that.