Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Peyroteo94

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yaf said:
Altitude advantage is limited for some days like usually 3 weeks which makes it touch and go for Rvv and especially for roubaix so his coaches probably put this into consideration and start at either E3 or Gent and also he has msr already in his palmares so its understandable but if i were him i will try to win every race i can until E3 where the goat will start his flemish classic and hope for the best for the rest of spring
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If he ends his training camp 5/6 days before RVV, he can maintain his gains.
I'm also curious about Matteo Jorgeonson, I want to know if he will do the Giro-Tour and avoid classics.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Another rival for MSR.

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That's not a surprise.
But I think the key opponents are Van's. If they're not there/not good it will be hard for someone to stay on Pog's wheel.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Another rival for MSR.

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Oh, really? We’re not in 2023.
In my opinion for 2025 the only real danger is Van der Poel and I think this year even him will lose to Tadej.
I think that this Pogi season will be something that cycling world never seen before. He will win every race he is at start of,
 
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Tymek said:
Oh, really? We’re not in 2023.
In my opinion for 2025 the only real danger is Van der Poel and I think this year even him will lose to Tadej.
I think that this Pogi season will be something that cycling world never seen before. He will win every race he is at start of,
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Don't underestimate drafting. Cipressa and Poggio are very overrated climbs. They climb at 30 km/h.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Don't underestimate drafting. Cipressa and Poggio are very overrated climbs. They climb at 30 km/kmh
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I don't remember the Cipressa climb profile, the way UAE could give Poggi an advantage would be to slow the peloton down until the steepest part to lessen for a while drafting on that climb and make the climb an aerobic excersize . If they have a gap at the start of the Poggio climb then Pogacar could get away for good. That would be difficult to do.

Edit: Thinking about it again should UAE be able to slow it down on a steeper section for a couple of minutes could that force MVDP out of the saddle for a while and make him put in more effort than on a fast high speed drafting effort and take some power out of him for later?

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I don't remember the Cipressa climb profile, the way UAE could give Poggi an advantage would be to slow the peloton down until the steepest part to lessen for a while drafting on that climb and make the climb an aerobic excersize . If they have a gap at the start of the Poggio climb then Pogacar could get away for good. That would be difficult to do.

Edit: Thinking about it again should UAE be able to slow it down on a steeper section for a couple of minutes could that force MVDP out of the saddle for a while and make him put in more effort than on a fast high speed drafting effort and take some power out of him for later?

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Don't believe in that. If they slow down, drafting is lower but they don't put hardness in the race. They need to sufocate and burn other teams before Pogacar's attack.
 
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Sandisfan said:
I don't remember the Cipressa climb profile, the way UAE could give Poggi an advantage would be to slow the peloton down until the steepest part to lessen for a while drafting on that climb and make the climb an aerobic excersize . If they have a gap at the start of the Poggio climb then Pogacar could get away for good. That would be difficult to do.

Edit: Thinking about it again should UAE be able to slow it down on a steeper section for a couple of minutes could that force MVDP out of the saddle for a while and make him put in more effort than on a fast high speed drafting effort and take some power out of him for later?

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but there really aren't "steep" sections compared to many of the murs these riders tackle.
 
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Tymek said:
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I hope this will happen.
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I think the more important this is not if there will be team-mates but how far behind they will be and how long it will take to reorganize.
Point being Cipressa is an easy climb after an easy race so even if yo DO drop helpers, they may be very close.
If Pogacar attacks on Cipressa and if teams reorganize quickly after, i think Pogacar would need at least 30 seconds.
 
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but there really aren't "steep" sections compared to many of the murs these riders tackle.
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I should have written on this non-steep climb that using a stall tactic on the steeper parts of the non-steep climb go slow for a while then hit it hard was the thought though still unlikely to have a lot of effect. I would Think getting heavier riders out of their saddles would actually mean a harder work load for those riders. Then when you speed up the accordion effect could snap a bit for UAE to then put in the hard work. It's just a theory not necessarily a good one LOL.
 
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Everybody is talking about which riders put before Pog. Still, nobody is talking about putting a rider or two behind him so that Wout or MvDP can't jump on his wheel immediately and have to go around said riders which is more important to get that initial separation.
 
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