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veganrob said:
Jimmy, you missed the 'IF". Gotta read it all son.

I didn't miss the 'if', in fact that makes it more of an oxymoron. You present a highly speculative scenario, then say 'you can't make this up', except you were.

Back to class son
 

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When Lance speaks people listen. Brad loves Lance but does Lance love Brad?

Lance raced with Wiggins in 2009 and 2010. They became good friends.

I'm looking forward to hearing Lance's viewpoint on the 2012 Tour.

Cookson is already in damage control mode. Wiggins would have thought Lance was never going to admit. And now?

Think there will be a few Sky guys watching Oprah next week. Maybe at the training camp?
 
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thehog said:
When Lance speaks people listen. Brad loves Lance but does Lance love Brad?

Lance raced with Wiggins in 2009 and 2010. They became good friends.

I'm looking forward to hearing Lance's viewpoint on the 2012 Tour.

Cookson is already in damage control mode. Wiggins would have thought Lance was never going to admit. And now?

Think they'll be a few Sky guys watching Oprah next week. Maybe at the training camp?

brad does not really love lance ( see above ) lance only loves himself

again lance will only talk about himself

is is most likely lance will still NOT admit

yes! the guys at team sky will be watching........everyone enjoys a good laugh

next they will read your posts
 
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thehog said:
Lance raced with Wiggins in 2009 and 2010. They became good friends.

I doubt anyone has ever been a good friend of Lance, except the guy called "College" in his books.

People said nice things about Lance to avoid upsetting him, as he had the power destroy, "back in the day". That day has long since passed though, one would think.
 

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Wallace and Gromit said:
I doubt anyone has ever been a good friend of Lance, except the guy called "College" in his books.

People said nice things about Lance to avoid upsetting him, as he had the power destroy, "back in the day". That day has long since passed though, one would think.

Brad defended Lance as "clean", "most tested" and "over 500 tests".

That's what friends do. They defend each other. All this is quoted fact - evidence.

Are suggesting Wiggins made these things up? Why would he do that?
 
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Utter drivel as usual, desperation stakes to get anything on Wiggins. I wonder many how many times you have repeated that same single quote from 2010 from Wiggins in this clinic? Dozens and dozens of times, banging the same tired drum trying to make the same tired insinuation. Lance will be talking about his favourite subject: himself. If you want to discuss the interview take it to the correct thread
 

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JimmyFingers said:
Utter drivel as usual, desperation stakes to get anything on Wiggins. I wonder many how many times you have repeated that same single quote from 2010 from Wiggins in this clinic? Dozens and dozens of times, banging the same tired drum trying to make the same tired insinuation. Lance will be talking about his favourite subject: himself. If you want to discuss the interview take it to the correct thread

What are you trying to hide?

This is the Sky thread. Cookson made remarks about Wiggins and Lance.

I'm not following your logic.

It's not old. It's new. Cookson only spoke today. He specifically mentioned Wiggins in relation to the Oprah interview.
 
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thehog said:
What are you trying to hide?

This is the Sky thread. Cookson made remarks about Wiggins and Lance.

I'm not following your logic.

It's not old. It's new. Cookson only spoke today. He specifically mentioned Wiggins in relation to the Oprah interview.

Still a subject for the interview thread, not here
 
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Hog, be mild.
The Sky-bots are having a hard time.
Be it old news (Wiggo's love for Lance) or new news (De Jongh joining two unrepentant dopers at Saxo), practically every single bit of news relating to Sky goes on to portray Sky as a ped-abusing collective.
This is an unfair discussion. Can't remember the last time the Sky-bots had something to support their position.
 
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sniper said:
Hog, be mild.
The Sky-bots are having a hard time.
Be it old news (Wiggo's love for Lance) or new news (De Jongh joining two unrepentant dopers at Saxo), practically every single bit of news relating to Sky goes on to portray Sky as a ped-abusing collective.
This is an unfair discussion. Can't remember the last time the Sky-bots had something to support their position.

What's a Sky-bot?
 

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sniper said:
Hog, be mild.
The Sky-bots are having a hard time.
Be it old news (Wiggo's love for Lance) or new news (De Jongh joining two unrepentant dopers at Saxo), practically every single bit of news relating to Sky goes on to portray Sky as a ped-abusing collective.
This is an unfair discussion. Can't remember the last time the Sky-bots had something to support their position.

Yes you're not allowed to discuss Sky and doping in the Sky thread.

"Does not compute, stack overflow error 165, Sky doping comment, shutdown, syntax error"


Anyway back to Lance/Cookson...(http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13675/Cookson-concerned-Armstrong-may-taint-Wiggins-Tour-win.aspx).

I'm actually interested if Lance passes on his observations of the 2012 Tour. I wonder if he'll say it'd clean? or drop Wiggins in it?
 
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thehog said:
Yes you're not allowed to discuss Sky and doping in the Sky thread.

"Does not compute, stack overflow error 165, Sky doping comment, shutdown, syntax error"


Anyway back to Lance/Cookson...(http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13675/Cookson-concerned-Armstrong-may-taint-Wiggins-Tour-win.aspx).

I'm actually interested if Lance passes on his observations of the 2012 Tour. I wonder if he'll say it'd clean? or drop Wiggins in it?

Doubt that he'll talk about 2012 or the state of cycling now. I'm guessing he will talk about himself and the only reference he will make to others is 'guys from my era'. I could be wrong though.
 
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sniper said:
Be it old news (Wiggo's love for Lance) or new news (De Jongh joining two unrepentant dopers at Saxo), practically every single bit of news relating to Sky goes on to portray Sky as a ped-abusing collective.

To be fair though Sniper, any news about anything, be it old, new or completely fabricated, can be interpreted by you and Hog as conclusive proof that Sky is a "PED-abusing collective".

I bet you wish you were so good at predicting lottery numbers.
 

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Wallace and Gromit said:
To be fair though Sniper, any news about anything, be it old, new or completely fabricated, can be interpreted by you and Hog as conclusive proof that Sky is a "PED-abusing collective".

I bet you wish you were so good at predicting lottery numbers.

Now you're be silly.

Lance (potential) admission is not old news. Neither is Wiggins love for Lance (2011).

No one is suggesting Sky is doping but you.

I was posting Cookson's report this morning. In which he had concerns Lance might "taint" Wiggins victory in 2012. I see it as preemptive damage control from Sky.

Lance and Wiggins are in bed together. Trying to distance the two now that Lance has been found out is disappointing from Sky.

What I find odd about this forum and in particular the Sky fans is they're so unwilling to discuss anything. They just want all conversation shut down.

Odd. Very odd.
 
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Wallace and Gromit said:
To be fair though Sniper, any news about anything, be it old, new or completely fabricated, can be interpreted by you and Hog as conclusive proof that Sky is a "PED-abusing collective".

I bet you wish you were so good at predicting lottery numbers.

who's talking conclusive proof? stop distorting.

the portrait of Sky as a Lance-loving team is taking shape nicely.
your portrait of Sky as a clean team is more problematic, I'd say.
Try to separate fake from original:

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so what did cookson say

thehog said:
Now you're be silly.

ok hoggie discuss...what did cookson say? brad rode tdf 2012 clean

reference to lance was that he might tarnish the sport of cycling not

just brad

so instead of continuing to spout crap........brad loves lance /does

lance love brad? discuss the issue of sky doping
 

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JimmyFingers said:
Best quote ever

This isn't discussion, it's schoolyard posturing. I'll discuss something when it's worth discussing.

Thanks Jimmy. Keep us posted when you're ready to contribute.
 

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Wallace and Gromit said:
Of course they're not. I've just imagined you, Sniper, Dear Wiggo, Gallic Ho etc. etc.

You're just avoiding the obvious connection between Lance & Wiggins.

You're trying to shoot the messenger.

I find it strange that Cookson released his statement today. Sky appear worried.

Next week will be interesting. Damage control will need to be fully implemented from Sky.

Wiggins said some things about Lance which Armstrong might not appreciate. Considering Lance helped Brad out and got him connected.

Feel free to discuss or carry on shooting the messenger (me) as avoidance.
 
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thehog said:
Feel free to discuss or carry on shooting the messenger (me) as avoidance.

What am I avoiding, my porcine friend? I've said numerous times that Sky's performances this year are eyebrow-raising at the least. That doesn't mean that every anti-Sky/anti-Wiggo comment is true though, so I comment on some of your more outrageous ones.

Claiming that I am the only person suggesting Sky is doping is ridiculous. There's a fine line between trolling and spouting bullsh*t, and you crossed it there, I have to say.

And we're still waiting for your 100% proof of Wiggo's connection with Ferrari.