The Book of HogWalsh

[Parrulo]

Quotes will go here

 

[Digger]

The easiest part of investigating Lance Armstrong was to say he was very fast and therefore there was a chance he was very dirty.

Yet in another part of the book he says that comparing speeds and times is 'flimsy' when he has to somehow address AX3 and Ventoux.

 

[thehog]

Iban Mayo's ride in the 2004 Dauphiné was delivered at an apparent pace of 23.10kmh while Fromme rode at a more sedate 21.86kmh

Fails to mention Mayo was an ITT then states:

...Froome's climb of Mount Ventoux comes in twenty third

Both Chapter 13.

Fails to mention Froome rode 242km and a lot of the best times are straight up ITTs.

 

[the sceptic]

Yet in another part of the book he says that comparing speeds and times is 'flimsy' when he has to somehow address AX3 and Ventoux.

adding to that:

DW: Why is it sad? They’re cheating. It’s sad that they cheat, but it’s good news when they get caught. What is sad is that the guy who’s wearing the yellow jersey now, Alberto Contador, is definitely cheating.

M: How can you tell he’s cheating?

DW: Michael Rasmussen went up the Gourette-Col d'Aubisque faster than Lance Armstrong ever went up it. Alberto Contador was alongside him the whole way. I’ve been at that race since the early 80s and I know what speeds they go up that mountain. The speeds the leaders go up at today are just illogical.

 

[jens_attacks]

 

[theyoungest]

In my mind I'm already replacing 'Tim Kerrison' with 'Michele Ferrari' in those quotations.

I'm sure Walsh isn't trying to hide anything, and he really didn't see any doping going on, but Jesus T.ttyf.cking, the guy really does seem starstruck.

 

[maltiv]

Yes, he's a magician. Only 6/9 riders on the TDF team came into the race with no form, completely overtrained.

 

[Benotti69]

Can we please keep this thread to quotes from the book with chapter and page number references.



If you want to comment on something here copy and paste it into your reply on the Walsh thread so this thread remains quotes only!

 

[Parrulo]

Thanks Benotti, Chapther and pages would be helpful.

And ya this is a quotes only thread.

 

[MartinGT]

adding to that:

Serious? He said that in his book?

 

[The Hitch]

Hog posted this.

So for ventoux Walsh says that what is really important is that the stage was in his eyes easier than when lance did it. That excuses froomes performance.

Ok then well surely for ax 3 you have to in that case point out that the stage was quite a bit harder than when lance did it.

Apparently not. Walsh picks and chooses when variables like stage difficulty matter, and conveniently they always suit his preheld beliefs.

 

[The Hitch]

Serious? He said that in his book?

No that was from 2007. Walsh thought climbing speeds were direct proof of doping right up to the moment of ax3 when in a split second (similar to wiggos change from anti to pro.omerta) he changed to the violent -speeds don't matter at all, position he holds now.

 

[MartinGT]

I wonder what the unedited version of this book would read like.

Before the Team Sky lawyers got hold of it. Would there be much to take out? I dont think so, he is well and truly in bed with them.

 

[The Hitch]

Like a jilted lover left at the alter...

Funny, from the same team that gave us this:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=834036&postcount=1368

(Taken from an interview with Norwegian TV after a stage in País Vasco where they didn't study the roadbook enough to notice that the uncategorised climb with a couple of kilometres to go was actually a kilometre at 10%, and so toasted their puncheurs trying to lead a sprint out). Sounds like the roadbook at THAT point was more like the Bible you find in your hotel room.

David Walsh makes a big deal above out of Sky focusing so much on every little detail leavbing nothing behind.

LS and Maltiv however give an example of where Sky, in fact, showed that their preperation can at times be pathetically weak.

One could also add the fact that Froome admited in an interview in May that he had never even been in a wind tunnel until very recently.

Which massively contradicts Walsh's portrayal of Sky as a team which leaves no stone unturned. Anyone remember the link for that interview?

 

[the sceptic]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...ns-challenge-to-Tour-de-France-ambitions.html

Despite being the Olympic bronze medallist in the discipline and runner-up to Wiggins in both long time-trials in this year’s Tour, Froome has never tested his position and bike in a wind tunnel. In time-trial terms, he has been operating in the Stone Age, with elbows out as if riding a scooter.

 

[Benotti69]

Walsh talking about his fantasy fiction novel here

http://newstalk.ie/david-walsh-on-inside-team-sky

 

[the sceptic]

Back at the Team Sky hotel in Embrun, Brailsford slept through most of the time trial, waking in time to watch the finish on television. ‘Chris has always been a good time-triallist,’ he said afterwards, ‘that’s where I first saw him, in Melbourne in the Commonwealth Games in 2006, first time I set eyes on him. Nathan O’Neill won that time trial, we had Steve Cummings and the usual suspects. I was there with Doug Dailey and Shane [Sutton]. Shane’s saying [in Brailsford’s best Australian twang], “You’re not going to believe this, some bloke’s turned up in sand shoes, jumped on his bike and look what he’s done. In a pair of ****ing sand shoes!” ‘We all looked and thought bloody hell that guy is impressive. He wasn’t up there, but it was impressive, you know, he caught the eye. And he was completely unknown. And then Doug, being Doug, said, “Ah, I might have a word with him, lads,” they got in touch, and the rest . . . was history really.'.

 

[86TDFWinner]

DW: Why is it sad? They’re cheating. It’s sad that they cheat, but it’s good news when they get caught. What is sad is that the guy who’s wearing the yellow jersey now, Alberto Contador, is definitely cheating.

M: How can you tell he’s cheating?

DW: Michael Rasmussen went up the Gourette-Col d'Aubisque faster than Lance Armstrong ever went up it. Alberto Contador was alongside him the whole way. I’ve been at that race since the early 80s and I know what speeds they go up that mountain. The speeds the leaders go up at today are just illogical.

That's his smoking gun?

 

[Ferminal]

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The result is well known but I wonder how correct the anecdote is. Can't find any pics unfortunately. All I can see is that Kinjah had shoes in the RR.

Apparently they had to borrow bikes once they were in Melbourne, so Froome borrwed an MTB, TT and road bike but didn't bother getting a pair of kicks.

(Due to the infamous crash, we know he had full kit in Salzburg six months later).

 

[Franklin]

The idea that Sky personell start foaming at the mouth when they see pictures of dopers is just beyond ridiculous. If so they would be having epileptic fits every time they put their face outside their cozy bus as 95% of the TdF staff are ex-cyclists and yes... dopers.

Also, what happened when they learnt the shocking ever so secret truth of Sean Yates (along with the moto-man candids which did not do the rounds for months). Six staff members had to be hospitalized for slashing their wrist? Rod Eeling worth had to be restrained for trying to drive the Sky bus through Yates family-home?