The UCI strikes back

[thehog]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6...dis-rejects-claims-riders-were-protected.aspx

Are they taunting him? What ever happened to the legal action from Pat?

The unsigned editorial, titled “Consistency, Rigour and Serenity,” does not name Landis, but leaves little doubt that it is referring to him.

“According to a certain person who has a tendency to throw around serious accusations without the slightest evidence to back them up, the UCI protects certain riders from the risk of failing a doping test. … it would be very interesting to know the names of these privileged riders who have enjoyed such favourable treatment,” the article reads.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6...dis-rejects-claims-riders-were-protected.aspx

Are they taunting him? What ever happened to the legal action from Pat?

The unsigned editorial, titled “Consistency, Rigour and Serenity,”*does not name Landis, but leaves little doubt that it is referring to him.

“According to a*certain person*who has a tendency to throw around*serious accusations*without the slightest*evidence to back them*up, the UCI protects*certain riders from the*risk of failing a doping*test. … it would*be very interesting to*know the names of*these privileged riders*who have enjoyed such*favourable treatment,” the article reads.

They like to use this tact quite a bit. (the old tried and true ...."HE is a LIAR" method)

“For the time being we must simply look at the source of these insinuations, which seriously tarnish the image of our sport and its leaders: this is a person who lacks all credibility and has no sense of responsibility, who believes he now has free rein, having abused the system himself, having lied to all of us and all of you,” the editorial continues.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

That is a really b*llsy response from the UCI.

I truly hope that the situation is not one where they know more than we do. I would not have expected this sort of aggresive public response from the talking-heads. Unless...

That release is obviously crafted around a certain motif - 'Landis is a liar'.

Is this another attempt to keep that motif in the media loop to soften up the listeners for a tepid response from the UCI re AC? Is it an attempt to lay the 'UCI is doing everything' foundation for the American investigation to fall flat re doping (vs. other financial findings)?

Or, maybe they're just so inbred and self-important that they actually think that this release will gain some serious traction.

Very interesting. Thanks, Hog.

 

[thehog]

That is a really b*llsy response from the UCI.

I truly hope that the situation is not one where they know more than we do. I would not have expected this sort of aggresive public response from the talking-heads. Unless...

That release is obviously crafted around a certain motif - 'Landis is a liar'.

Is this another attempt to keep that motif in the media loop to soften up the listeners for a tepid response from the UCI re AC? Is it an attempt to lay the 'UCI is doing everything' foundation for the American investigation to fall flat re doping (vs. other financial findings)?

Or, maybe they're just so inbred and self-important that they actually think that this release will gain some serious traction.

Very interesting. Thanks, Hog.

I thought it odd. If Landis is a liar and damaging the sport and it's leaders as they say then sue the bas1ard. Slap a cease and desist order on him, get him into court and make him prove his accusations.*

Now if you're actually worried about him and what he's saying then... Don't actually name him, attack his credibility, run him down as a two-bit doper and one of the few bad eggs in the sport. Don't address his accusations. Challenge him without naming him to name other riders knowing that itself would upset the peloton.*

Like I said it's a weird response. Almost childish. Writing in ones own publication and not really saying a lot.

They know nothing of the investigation. This looks like they'll protect themselves rather than sell themselves in for Lance. Interesting times ahead.

 

[hrotha]

It's funny because if the UCI was a forumer and they posted that thing here, it would be torn apart in no time. I mean...

it would be very interesting to know the names of these privileged riders who have enjoyed such favourable treatment.

Like Armstrong, huh? And US Postal/Discovery as a whole? Astana at least up to last year (coffee with testers and what not)?

Today, as the UCI awaits the Spanish Federation’s conclusions regarding the Contador case, his theory seems all the more absurd.

Hello, you tried to deal with the positive behind the scenes, contrary to normal procedure.

When you take away the rubbish, all you're left with is "Landis is a known liar." Now granted, that is true and is a good defense, but don't waste our time by packing the editorial full of garbage.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

One thing that blew my mind was that they brought up the AC case with absolutely no admition that they delayed their findings, consulted with AC, etc etc.

Maybe they truly think that we're all ***... Or at least the press...

 

[BotanyBay]

Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat.

Pat.

 

[sniper]

It's funny because if the UCI was a forumer and they posted that thing here, it would be torn apart in no time. I mean...

Like Armstrong, huh? And US Postal/Discovery as a whole? Astana at least up to last year (coffee with testers and what not)?

Hello, you tried to deal with the positive behind the scenes, contrary to normal procedure.

When you take away the rubbish, all you're left with is "Landis is a known liar." Now granted, that is true and is a good defense, but don't waste our time by packing the editorial full of garbage.

+1

Now, internationally, there's at least (or perhaps only) one press that is, like this forum, likely to tear this UCI message apart, or at least review it with the necessary dose of cynicism: indeed, the German press. So instead of criticizing/accusing the German media for/of being hypocrit and anti-cycling (as is happening in several threads running), shouldn't we be more supportive of their quest for a doping-free game of cycling?

 

[Oldman]

I thought it odd. If Landis is a liar and damaging the sport and it's leaders as they say then sue the bas1ard. Slap a cease and desist order on him, get him into court and make him prove his accusations.*

Now if you're actually worried about him and what he's saying then... Don't actually name him, attack his credibility, run him down as a two-bit doper and one of the few bad eggs in the sport. Don't address his accusations. Challenge him without naming him to name other riders knowing that itself would upset the peloton.*

Like I said it's a weird response. Almost childish. Writing in ones own publication and not really saying a lot.

They know nothing of the investigation. This looks like they'll protect themselves rather than sell themselves in for Lance. Interesting times ahead.

Comparing this to an elected politician in trouble you'd expect a progression of responses:
1. Patriotism-I love the flag, etc. UCI version-"the sport"
2. Religion-I confess my mortal failings to a higher authority. UCI version-oh, wait. We created the religion and can't confess to anyone....

It does appear pretty toothless and childish.

 

[flicker]

+1

Now, internationally, there's at least (or perhaps only) one press that is, like this forum, likely to tear this UCI message apart, or at least review it with the necessary dose of cynicism: indeed, the German press. So instead of criticizing/accusing the German media for/of being hypocrit and anti-cycling (as is happening in several threads running), shouldn't we be more supportive of their quest for a doping-free game of cycling?

Maybe so. My family came from Prussia 1904,to the states spoke German to each other their whole lives read German books periodicals,books followed German politics and never once went back to Germany.

I never understood why but I myself never wanted to visit Germany. That is my home culture. Then I read Gunter Grass and I understood, the book about a loving couple who just couldn't justify having children.

It seems oppressed there I watch German cinema and feel sad, those are my people. The journalists want to hammer on my people, I do not understand but living in the US I can see there is another way of being....

 

[lean mean &green]

The UCI says:

For the time being we must simply look at the source of these insinuations, which seriously tarnish the image of our sport and its leaders: this is a person who lacks all credibility and has no sense of responsibility, who believes he now has free rein, having abused the system himself, having lied to all of us and all of you

sorry pat, oops ...i mean "faceless UCI". we're past the point of only looking at the source. we're actually onto the next stage where we look at the allegations themselves. please try and catch up.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Cummon, Flickie... We're your people...

 

[BotanyBay]

The UCI says:


sorry pat, oops ...i mean "faceless UCI". we're past the point of only looking at the source. we're actually onto the next stage where we look at the allegations themselves. please try and catch up.

 

[lean mean &green]

it conjured up a different image for me:

 

[MacRoadie]

I think this is the one you're looking for:

"Have a seat here in his office, Mr. McQuaid will be with you shortly".

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Uh oh... Are you callin out BB with that?

Be prepared for more movie and pop-culture references than you can handle...

 

[MacRoadie]

Uh oh... Are you callin out BB with that?

Be prepared for more movie and pop-culture references than you can handle...

Oh, I can handle it. Can you?

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

I can't handle the truth!

 

[theswordsman]

I think this is the one you're looking for:

"Have a seat here in his office, Mr. McQuaid will be with you shortly".

Ah! The first sighting of As the Toto Turns

 

[Cloxxki]

It's becoming a theme. UCI taking the time and effort to stand up to Landis, and making fools out of themselves.
Like Verbruggen being totally tango'd (for lack of vocabulary) by Landis when it was Verbruggen who felt he should stand up and do something.
If you have the truth in hand, and hold it firmly, your opponents will tumble one after the other.
These baboons actually run a global organisation? If that's not a sign that quality is not the first requirement for a spot at the top there...

 

[Anonymous]

the uci editorial sounds scarily like what phil liggett had to say about the allegations earlier in the year. Either phil wrote the editorial or there is a well rehearsed script doing the rounds.

My moneys on the latter.

 

[BikeCentric]

Wow, super tough talk by the toughies at the UCI. Sounds like the lady doth protest too much eh Pat?

The lack of critical thinking is rather amusing. Ex-dopers with no power telling all hurts the sport, but the Governing body of the sport itself issuing childish, poorly written, hack public relations press releases is good for the sport?! If Landis is just a liar with no credibility then why empower him at all with a fire and brimstone press release denouncing him?!

This is what you get with a nepotistic family of inbred alcholic thugs running the UCI.

 

[BotanyBay]

I think this is the one you're looking for:

"Have a seat here in his office, Mr. McQuaid will be with you shortly".

Yeah, but I used that one last week on another topic

 

[washedup]

“Today, as the UCI awaits the Spanish Federation’s conclusions regarding the Contador case, his theory seems all the more absurd. The consistency, rigour and serenity that governed the inquiry, conducted in close cooperation with the World Anti-Doping Agency, into the abnormal test results of the triple Tour de France winner, should offer the most telling guarantee of our commitment to eradicate doping, regardless of the low levels of product detected, regardless of all the possible justifications, regardless of the rider’s impressive record, and regardless of the additional negative consequences for cycling....."

So, after Landis makes accusations of the UCI protecting the stars, they busts a star. How is that proof that the UCI that his accusations were not correct?

 

[washedup]

Further more, what happens when/if the other Landis accusations are proven true?