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Three GT'S top ten,who is clean ?

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Giro
1 Ryder Hesjedal (CAN) Garmin-Barracuda 91h 39' 02"
2 Joaquim Rodríguez (ESP) Team Katusha + 16"
3 Thomas De Gendt (BEL) Vacansoleil-DCM + 1' 39"
4 Michele Scarponi (ITA) Lampre-ISD + 2' 05"
5 Ivan Basso (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 3' 44"
6 Damiano Cunego (ITA) Lampre-ISD + 4' 40"
7 Rigoberto Urán (COL) Team Sky + 5' 57"
8 Domenico Pozzovivo (ITA) Colnago-CSF Bardiani + 6' 28"
9 Sergio Henao (COL) Team Sky + 7' 50"
10 Mikel Nieve (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 8' 08"

Tour de France
1 Bradley Wiggins (GBR) Team Sky 87h 34' 47"
2 Chris Froome (GBR) Team Sky + 3' 21″
3 Vincenzo Nibali (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 6' 19″
4 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (BEL) Lotto-Belisol + 10' 15″
5 Tejay van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team + 11' 04″
6 Haimar Zubeldia (ESP) RadioShack-Nissan + 15' 41″
7 Cadel Evans (AUS) BMC Racing Team + 15' 49″
8 Pierre Rolland (FRA) Team Europcar + 16' 26″
9 Janez Brajkovič (SLO) Astana + 16' 33″
10 Thibaut Pinot (FRA) FDJ-BigMat + 17' 17″

Vuelta Espana
1 Alberto Contador (ESP) Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank 84h 59' 49"
2 Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Movistar Team + 1' 16"
3 Joaquim Rodríguez (ESP) Team Katusha + 1' 37"
4 Chris Froome (GBR) Team Sky + 10' 16"
5 Daniel Moreno (ESP) Team Katusha + 11' 29"
6 Robert Gesink (NED) Rabobank + 12' 23"
7 Andrew Talansky (USA) Garmin-Sharp + 13' 28"
8 Laurens ten Dam (NED) Rabobank + 13' 41"
9 Igor Antón (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 14' 01"
10 Beñat Intxausti (ESP) Movistar Team + 16' 13


OK Question is can we see anyone in the top ten of the three grand tours who isnt suspect and how many versus how many are clean or......suspect of being clean !
 
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of all of them the results in the Giro point to either a clean race or a real dirty one with the top ten within 8 mins of each other. Massive gaps in the others which leads me to believe the winners of those were not squeaky clean.

However when you look at some of the riders in the giro then it doesnt make sense its totally clean. On J Rod coming close, well we should have known then he had changed his routine and was getting used to it and what he could get away with, and that certainly casts doubt on the winner and the rest......I give up .
 
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howsteepisit said:
What an exercise in futility. One of the lessons of the LA saga is you cannot tell.
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Exactly....therefore all the other threads are therefore also exercises in futility,yet you still read them.

I just thought it might pass the time.
 
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noddy69 said:
Giro
1 Ryder Hesjedal (CAN) Garmin-Barracuda 91h 39' 02"
2 Joaquim Rodríguez (ESP) Team Katusha + 16"
3 Thomas De Gendt (BEL) Vacansoleil-DCM + 1' 39"
4 Michele Scarponi (ITA) Lampre-ISD + 2' 05"
5 Ivan Basso (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 3' 44"
6 Damiano Cunego (ITA) Lampre-ISD + 4' 40"
7 Rigoberto Urán (COL) Team Sky + 5' 57"
8 Domenico Pozzovivo (ITA) Colnago-CSF Bardiani + 6' 28"
9 Sergio Henao (COL) Team Sky + 7' 50"
10 Mikel Nieve (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 8' 08"

Tour de France
1 Bradley Wiggins (GBR) Team Sky 87h 34' 47"
2 Chris Froome (GBR) Team Sky + 3' 21″
3 Vincenzo Nibali (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 6' 19″
4 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (BEL) Lotto-Belisol + 10' 15″
5 Tejay van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team + 11' 04″
6 Haimar Zubeldia (ESP) RadioShack-Nissan + 15' 41″
7 Cadel Evans (AUS) BMC Racing Team + 15' 49″
8 Pierre Rolland (FRA) Team Europcar + 16' 26″
9 Janez Brajkovič (SLO) Astana + 16' 33″
10 Thibaut Pinot (FRA) FDJ-BigMat + 17' 17″

Vuelta Espana
1 Alberto Contador (ESP) Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank 84h 59' 49"
2 Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Movistar Team + 1' 16"
3 Joaquim Rodríguez (ESP) Team Katusha + 1' 37"
4 Chris Froome (GBR) Team Sky + 10' 16"
5 Daniel Moreno (ESP) Team Katusha + 11' 29"
6 Robert Gesink (NED) Rabobank + 12' 23"
7 Andrew Talansky (USA) Garmin-Sharp + 13' 28"
8 Laurens ten Dam (NED) Rabobank + 13' 41"
9 Igor Antón (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 14' 01"
10 Beñat Intxausti (ESP) Movistar Team + 16' 13


OK Question is can we see anyone in the top ten of the three grand tours who isnt suspect and how many versus how many are clean or......suspect of being clean !
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There's that Team Sky, dominating the year.
 
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noddy69 said:
Giro
1 Ryder Hesjedal (CAN) Garmin-Barracuda 91h 39' 02"
2 Joaquim Rodríguez (ESP) Team Katusha + 16"
3 Thomas De Gendt (BEL) Vacansoleil-DCM + 1' 39"
4 Michele Scarponi (ITA) Lampre-ISD + 2' 05"
5 Ivan Basso (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 3' 44"
6 Damiano Cunego (ITA) Lampre-ISD + 4' 40"
7 Rigoberto Urán (COL) Team Sky + 5' 57"
8 Domenico Pozzovivo (ITA) Colnago-CSF Bardiani + 6' 28"
9 Sergio Henao (COL) Team Sky + 7' 50"
10 Mikel Nieve (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 8' 08"

Tour de France
1 Bradley Wiggins (GBR) Team Sky 87h 34' 47"
2 Chris Froome (GBR) Team Sky + 3' 21″
3 Vincenzo Nibali (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 6' 19″
4 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (BEL) Lotto-Belisol + 10' 15″
5 Tejay van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team + 11' 04″
6 Haimar Zubeldia (ESP) RadioShack-Nissan + 15' 41″
7 Cadel Evans (AUS) BMC Racing Team + 15' 49″
8 Pierre Rolland (FRA) Team Europcar + 16' 26″
9 Janez Brajkovič (SLO) Astana + 16' 33″
10 Thibaut Pinot (FRA) FDJ-BigMat + 17' 17″

Vuelta Espana
1 Alberto Contador (ESP) Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank 84h 59' 49"
2 Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Movistar Team + 1' 16"
3 Joaquim Rodríguez (ESP) Team Katusha + 1' 37"
4 Chris Froome (GBR) Team Sky + 10' 16"
5 Daniel Moreno (ESP) Team Katusha + 11' 29"
6 Robert Gesink (NED) Rabobank + 12' 23"
7 Andrew Talansky (USA) Garmin-Sharp + 13' 28"
8 Laurens ten Dam (NED) Rabobank + 13' 41"
9 Igor Antón (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 14' 01"
10 Beñat Intxausti (ESP) Movistar Team + 16' 13


OK Question is can we see anyone in the top ten of the three grand tours who isnt suspect and how many versus how many are clean or......suspect of being clean !
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Bold are the most likely to be clean
 
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hrotha said:
Other threads are supposed to be based on evidence or decent hearsay. This is just shooting in the dark.
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yep, but so is stating for instance that team sky are all doping etc.

Based on other threads I decided to go the other way and see who people thought would be most likely to be dope free.......as most of the names have been mentioned in threads this year as linked to doping then a discussion on who doesnt look like they are is valid. The evidence you mention in the other threads is at times based on performance then that also works the other way ,therefore the evidence for not doping is performance ..... probably pointless, but I have time on my hands.
 
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Tejay and Evans. BMC did not dope this year. They received strict instructions last September to lay off. Ochs concerned about the USADA investigation.
 
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