Todays idiot masters fattie doper

[Pontiac]

Some things never change ...
https://velo.outsideonline.com/news/masters-world-champion-suspended-doping/

Yep the Kool Aid is still strong! I miss being fit and strutting around like a peacock, but damn, I sure don't miss being disappointed by idiots like this. I guess anything competitive gonna bring this stuff out, but we sure have our share of it in this sport.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Some things never change ...
https://velo.outsideonline.com/news/masters-world-champion-suspended-doping/

There were comments from people who rode with that guy saying he rocked up 200 pounds of muscle and started dropping little guys on climbs, “the most obvious user of anabolic steroids in history”.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

There were comments from people who rode with that guy saying he rocked up 200 pounds of muscle and started dropping little guys on climbs, “the most obvious user of anabolic steroids in history”.

View: https://youtu.be/AKq7JIFZaMQ?si=q6l-9bFuL_g4NzW4

 

[Rob5091]

The man sure is beefy ...and a little trip down memory lane of other notable "incidents"
https://road.cc/content/news/gran-fondi-world-champ-tests-positive-steroids-317685

 

[BubbaChuck]

van aart never fully recovered from that,lmaoo.

 

[BubbaChuck]

kuss and van aart litearlly destroyed their careers to beat pogacar,simon said no,lmaooo.

 

[Sciatic]

kuss and van aart litearlly destroyed their careers to beat pogacar,simon said no,lmaooo.

Wrong thread??

 

[Tricycle Rider]

The man sure is beefy ...and a little trip down memory lane of other notable "incidents"
https://road.cc/content/news/gran-fondi-world-champ-tests-positive-steroids-317685

Dude does look rather bulky doesn't he, more like a hulking swimmer than a cyclist.

 

[Oldman]

The man sure is beefy ...and a little trip down memory lane of other notable "incidents"
https://road.cc/content/news/gran-fondi-world-champ-tests-positive-steroids-317685

Not surprising he excels in TTs. That said; I felt no pangs of past glory when I quit riding in SoCal crits during early training season. Much of the pack looked like this guy and acted like MMA fighters on the bike. Not all, but too many.

 

[Pontiac]

Not surprising he excels in TTs. That said; I felt no pangs of past glory when I quit riding in SoCal crits during early training season. Much of the pack looked like this guy and acted like MMA fighters on the bike. Not all, but too many.

Yep, I was glad to stop as well. I kept 2 of my really nice bikes, but I did have to switch out the cranksets to old man stuff.....50-34 LOL, but it still is fun to just ride. As expensive as the cranksets were, it had to be a hell of lot less than this guy spent on whatever he was putting in his body!

 

[Hugh Januss]

Wrong thread??

Think he's responding to the voices in his head.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Yep, I was glad to stop as well. I kept 2 of my really nice bikes, but I did have to switch out the cranksets to old man stuff.....50-34 LOL, but it still is fun to just ride. As expensive as the cranksets were, it had to be a hell of lot less than this guy spent on whatever he was putting in his body!

There comes a time when everyone faces the choice between racing with (illegal) anti-aging drugs and quietly going out to pasture.

 

[Sciatic]

There comes a time when everyone faces the choice between racing with (illegal) anti-aging drugs and quietly going out to pasture.

Out to pasture? Heck, I'm already bedded down in the barn with the gate shut

 

[OJ....]

There comes a time when everyone faces the choice between racing with (illegal) anti-aging drugs and quietly going out to pasture.

You can also continue participating in races, and be slow, but that won't feed the ego.

 

[Hugh Januss]

You can also continue participating in races, and be slow, but that won't feed the ego.

Or you can just go out and ride your bike and still have some day left when you're done. It's not necessarily all about ego to thrive on the competition, but it's no longer competition to just be hanging on the back.

 

[Cookster15]

There comes a time when everyone faces the choice between racing with (illegal) anti-aging drugs and quietly going out to pasture.

Just going out and riding your bike ain't the same. What about competition with yourself?

Your choice I bolded would not even cross the mind of masters racers. 99.9% of masters racers will choose the latter. We are talking about an extreme minority in this thread who would dabble in PEDs of any description.

I don't think doping of any description other than maybe an extra cup of coffee or huff in a salbutamol inhaler crosses the mind of the overwhelming majority of older folk who want to participate in healthy competition. If they weren't riding their bikes they would be getting fat and have much worse health. They keep racing for their health and the social benefits.

Even hanging on the back - as long as they are not a danger to themselves or others so what? Just hanging on the back can be a big effort if you are 70 trying to hold 50 year olds. You can't replicate this on a solo or group ride. Who are we to deny them because we are younger and think they should just stop?

My father was racing until in his late 70s (he first raced when he was maybe 18). In his latter years he raced at a club with grades with similar aged guys. He stopped when he realised his eyesight became a safety issue. None of these guys care about PEDs. Zero.

 

[Pontiac]

Just going out and riding your bike ain't the same. What about competition with yourself?

Your choice I bolded would not even cross the mind of masters racers. 99.9% of masters racers will choose the latter. We are talking about an extreme minority in this thread who would dabble in PEDs of any description.

I don't think doping of any description other than maybe an extra cup of coffee or huff in a salbutamol inhaler crosses the mind of the overwhelming majority of older folk who want to participate in healthy competition. If they weren't riding their bikes they would be getting fat and have much worse health. They keep racing for their health and the social benefits.

Even hanging on the back - as long as they are not a danger to themselves or others so what? Just hanging on the back can be a big effort if you are 70 trying to hold 50 year olds. You can't replicate this on a solo or group ride. Who are we to deny them because we are younger and think they should just stop?

My father was racing until in his late 70s (he first raced when he was maybe 18). In his latter years he raced at a club with grades with similar aged guys. He stopped when he realised his eyesight became a safety issue. None of these guys care about PEDs. Zero.

Maybe that's true on a local basis and it is probably what I felt when I first got back into racing, but it didn't take long to notice something was amiss in the bigger races when guys outside our area started coming in and it was certainly not the case when I started going to Natz again. All you have to do is review who and how many guys were getting busted on USADA's website. Look back at what I posted a few years back, when everyone who was caught in a year or two period was a master. And you know damn well with the lack of testing that was the tip of the iceberg. It's a problem for sure. And guys who enjoy just racing and filling up the pack should not have to have their experience sullied by those idiots.