Tony Martin laments returning dopers

[Taxus4a]

To think that in a clean sport someone cant be very superior to the rest is not understand sport.

if you think that the sport is based in illegal things, so you must think bad of any great performance...but it is becouse you think that way, in the other way, suits perfectly.

 

[blackcat]

think? you mean as a product of analysis and sentient thought after the last two decades? one would have to be an idiot to think the sport was clean, and then knowing the advantage of oxygen doping, it is nigh impossible to be that many standard deviations superior when the peloton is running hot

 

[42x16ss]

think? you mean as a product of analysis and sentient thought after the last two decades? one would have to be an idiot to think the sport was clean, and then knowing the advantage of oxygen doping, it is nigh impossible to be that many standard deviations superior when the peloton is running hot

Yes, it was an incredibly good TT and I'm under no impression that Martin is clean with LeFevere and Ibarguren at OPQS but read my earlier post again. A lot of the TT top dogs weren't there.

 

[blackcat]

Yes, it was an incredibly good TT and I'm under no impression that Martin is clean with LeFevere and Ibarguren at OPQS but read my earlier post again. A lot of the TT top dogs weren't there.

is was responding to taxus.

the final chrono at the Tour, is about who is willing to lay it down.

and you are dead right, no one with any chrono palmares was there. Nibali could ride a good tt, but he lost alot of weight, and he cannot go with the best now. Tejay, if well, I expect may have been the second best in the field, all things being equal. He can really ride a test. Richie Porte is pretty good too, versus the specialists, he is still competitive.

tony martin had a phenomenal Tour. I think Frankie Andreu said he was the best rider over the three weeks.

 

[D-Queued]

Yes, it was an incredibly good TT and I'm under no impression that Martin is clean with LeFevere and Ibarguren at OPQS but read my earlier post again. A lot of the TT top dogs weren't there.

Yes, and no.

Some decent TTers survived to participate in the TT.

Why didn't Tuft do better, for example? Very animated on the Champs Elysees the next day, but his TT speed was relatively out of character for someone that single handedly won the TTT last year.

Was he dogging it, under some sort of egalatarian code that we are not aware of? Or, did he forget to fill up on rest day?

If the former, I would be glad to hear of such sportsmanship even if it isn't truly sporting.

As for the latter... I know, I know, he is stridently anti-doping and I need to be more politically correct.

Dave.

 

[The Hitch]

Meh, I wouldn't be so sure. Martin has to deal directly with the German media, so he has to play the game differently compared to, say, Contador. His suspicion index still stands out, as does, to a lesser extent, his riding for OPQS.

As does his assertion that being young is the equivalent of being clean. Anyone who says this should be given a 6 month suspension for stupidity and causing damage to the anti doping movement.

 

[Benotti69]

As does his assertion that being young is the equivalent of being clean. Anyone who says this should be given a 6 month suspension for stupidity and causing damage to the anti doping movement.

anti doping movement??? Where?