Yeah the best way to do it would be to have the Peyragudes TT come on the day after as a half stage. But I don't know realistically what is feasible with the time constraints, You could do Luchon > Saint-Girons via just Mente and Portet-d'Aspet which is only 75km I guess.
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The best alternative would be a Pinerolo finish with Pramartino like in the 2009 Giro and 2011 Tour.
Compare the end of this:
To this:
The Sestriere ascent from the latter is the first part of the descent in the former. It would put the Finestre summit 57km from the line.
You could, in theory, use Moncenisio directly backing into Finestre as the descent of Moncenisio deposits you in Susa and essentially just redo the 2009 stage with Finestre instead of Sestriere, replacing the part from 155km to 211km with the section from the 2015 stage from 151km to 182km, so reducing the length by 25km and still being a very long and tough stage.
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Approved!The best alternative would be a Pinerolo finish with Pramartino like in the 2009 Giro and 2011 Tour.
Compare the end of this:
To this:
The Sestriere ascent from the latter is the first part of the descent in the former. It would put the Finestre summit 57km from the line.
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Briançon > Sestriere
172.0 km, +5255 m. Bike ride in Briançon, Provence-Alpes-Côte D'Azur
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Oh I've looked at that road! Trust me, it's ridiculously dangerous...
Briançon > Sestriere
172.0 km, +5255 m. Bike ride in Briançon, Provence-Alpes-Côte D'Azurridewithgps.com
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If the finish is at Colle dell'Assietta, the flatter middle section is the only part that is more dangerous than Cirque du Litor. All hope is not lost.
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Something like this wouldn't be too much of an issue, I don't think. Other than the first bonus climb perhaps being too rough, and there not being much space for the finish.
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If they do indeed use the Finistre this year, it will definitely be the hardest climb used in the Tour outside of France (some may argue the hardest of all time, France included)
What other climbs outside the borders of France would be classified as being HC status, which of course have been used in the Tour??
Agnello??
What other climbs outside the borders of France would be classified as being HC status, which of course have been used in the Tour??
Agnello??
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Agnello is same ballpark as Finestre. Some might even argue Agnello is harder due to altitude, but I dno. Agnello was the first climb of the day though
Andorra Arcalis was a HC if I remember correctly, allthough a very, very shitty one and obviously not a real HC. I think Envalira only was 1st. Finhaut Emosson in 2017 should be HC as well, and the climb before that one was 1st if I remember correctly although much harder than Arcalis for example. Can't remember anything else, have they done Malbun?
Andorra Arcalis was a HC if I remember correctly, allthough a very, very shitty one and obviously not a real HC. I think Envalira only was 1st. Finhaut Emosson in 2017 should be HC as well, and the climb before that one was 1st if I remember correctly although much harder than Arcalis for example. Can't remember anything else, have they done Malbun?
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There's so little space at the top that I'd be amazed if they squeezed a TdF finish onto there.
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The Spanish Pyrenees aren't that crazy for the most part, you have good-but-not-special HC MTFs and strong cat.1 passes at best, with one key exception...
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Rasos de Peguera..... I think the Vuelta used it in the 1999 edition.The Spanish Pyrenees aren't that crazy for the most part, you have good-but-not-special HC MTFs and strong cat.1 passes at best, with one key exception...
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That's not a pass, or at least not unless they pave the final 2 kilometres of the northern side. Until it is, borderline HC MTF so not something we're sorely missing out on.
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Also don't forget one of the only things where you might find Sepp Kuss and I high fiving one another in agreement:
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