Tour de France 2025 route rumours and announcements

[E_F_]

The only major improvement in road racing bikes is carbon, isn't it? What else is major? Motors???

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Guys, guys, guys, these are not the TdF rumors I‘m looking for.

 

[Froome]

Are you really trying to justify 3 and half minutes?

The opposite.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Guys, guys, guys, these are not the TdF rumors I‘m looking for.

What if I start a rumour of there being a triple Alpe d'Huez stage (with two times over Col de Sarenne) and get some random Colombian website to write about it?

 

[Mayomaniac]

Better asphalt?

Better/smoother asphalt is a thing, mainly in the Pyrenees that were known for the rough road surface still in the early to mid 2000s, that has to be said. Smooth vs rough asphalt does make a significant difference.

 

[Salvarani]

Better/smoother asphalt is a thing, mainly in the Pyrenees that were known for the rough road surface still in the early to mid 2000s, that has to be said. Smooth vs rough asphalt does make a significant difference.

I am pretty sure the tires have developed quite a lot as well in 30 years. Maybe you put that under bike technology but it is still small differences over time that adds up. It does makes a lot of difference in the end.

Other things included.

 

[tobydawq]

Huh... I'm not so sure about that.

I am.

 

[SHAD0W93]

What if I start a rumour of there being a triple Alpe d'Huez stage (with two times over Col de Sarenne) and get some random Colombian website to write about it?

Why stop at a triple when we can make it a quadruple ascent while putting a big time bonus at the top each time so they’re all ridden as fast as possible thereby making the current top 10 times obsolete.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Why stop at a triple when we can make it a quadruple ascent while putting a big time bonus at the top each time so they’re all ridden as fast as possible thereby making the current top 10 times obsolete.

Let's wait and see what the rumour says whenever it's eventually posted on here after cyclinguptodate has put the Colombian article through Google Translate.

 

[Netserk]

Why stop at a triple when we can make it a quadruple ascent while putting a big time bonus at the top each time so they’re all ridden as fast as possible thereby making the current top 10 times obsolete.

[Voice of Bing] Could it BE any more perfect?! [/Voice of Bing]

Le Bourg-d'Oisans > Alpe d'Huez

163.0 km, +5899 m. Bike ride in Le Bourg-d'Oisans, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes

ridewithgps.com

 

[Cookster15]

The only major improvement in road racing bikes is carbon, isn't it? What else is major? Motors???

Aero of course. Pantani's bike was 6.96Kg or line ball with modern bikes. Comparing Marco Pantani's Bianchi Mega Pro XL vs Tadej Pogačar's Colnago V4Rs

It used to be thought (pre early 90s) that aero only made a significant difference at over 30km/h. But research and wind tunnel testing has shown there is significant benefit at much lower speeds - eg, AdH and PdB climbing speeds for the best pros like Pogacar and Vingegaard.

Good news for those of us who drooled over bikes at the UCI limit is the industry now builds top end bikes which are aero and near the UCI weight limit of 6.8Kg. Bad news is getting bikes to be aero and light has greatly increased their cost to us mere mortals.

 

[houtdffan]

Pantani only failed a health check, I don't think he counts as a proven rule-breaker.

Pantani was suspended as a result of the San Remo raid

 

[Netserk]

Pantani was suspended as a result of the San Remo raid

Wow, I had completely forgotten his short ban for using insulin.

 

[Valv.Piti]

[Voice of Bing] Could it BE any more perfect?! [/Voice of Bing]

Le Bourg-d'Oisans > Alpe d'Huez

163.0 km, +5899 m. Bike ride in Le Bourg-d'Oisans, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes

ridewithgps.com

Imagine descending the Alpe three times with drunk spectators waiting there for the last MTF. Yeah, that would be absolutely madness

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Imagine descending the Alpe three times with drunk spectators waiting there for the last MTF. Yeah, that would be absolutely madness

Why would they be standing on the descent?

 

[Valv.Piti]

Why would they be standing on the descent?

Because the last lap is the regular Alpe MTF from Bourg d' Oisans? You don't think lots of people will stand there even though its 3x Sarenne before?

Edit: Whoops, for some reason I misread the profile. That obviously aint gonna be a problem.

 

[ashhutch1997]

The repercussions in the media and social media would be very high. It's the most legendary and famous record.

Nahh, they've destroyed everyother notable record and the media just tell us is due to 'nutrition'.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Because the last lap is the regular Alpe MTF from Bourg d' Oisans?

I would expect them to be standing on the climb to see the riders go past all 4 times.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Better/smoother asphalt is a thing, mainly in the Pyrenees that were known for the rough road surface still in the early to mid 2000s, that has to be said. Smooth vs rough asphalt does make a significant difference.

Not sure about Europe, but in the UK the roads have gotten considerably worse in the last 20 years..

 

[Valv.Piti]

I would expect them to be standing on the climb to see the riders go past all 4 times.

Of course, thats what I realized and I even edited my post, but I guess you chose to not read that part...

 

[Mayomaniac]

Not sure about Europe, but in the UK the roads have gotten considerably worse in the last 20 years..

Yeah, but climbs get repaved for the Tour (or other big races) and they often use the best possible road surface for it.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Of course, thats what I realized and I even edited my post, but I guess you chose to not read that part...

I've only just seen the edit now, so it wasn't a deliberate oversight.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Anyway guys, let's get back to topic!

 

[Netserk]

Tour de France 2025 : les rumeurs et certitudes sur le parcours et les villes étapes de la 112e édition !

Première quinzaine de septembre, il est grand temps de porter le regard vers les rumeurs sur le parcours du Tour de France à venir, en l'occurrence la 112e édition, le Tour de France 2025 ! Là où j'indiquais l'an dernier que la publication arrivait un peu plus tôt car il y avait pas mal de rumeur

www.velowire.com

 

[Ulle97]

In anticipation of the upcoming Tour route, I'm hoping for a mountain stage that might yield more than 2 proper HC climbs.

When was the last time we had 6000-7000m of elevation gain in a stage??