Tour De France: Unchained aka that netflix thingy

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Netserk

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French fans are more important than all non-European fans combined. The entire race this year is in France, there is simply no more important constituency. It requires LOCAL support to keep the greatest bike race running.
 
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Netserk said:
French fans are more important than all non-European fans combined. The entire race this year is in France, there is simply no more important constituency. It requires LOCAL support to keep the greatest bike race running.
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The issue is based on experience, 'French fans' really only care about their riders and teams when they're winning. There's no people on earth who're greater at self flagellation of their sports teams and performers than the French when things aren't going well. Gaudu gets absolutely annihilated online, for example - even when finishing 4th. Their mantra (even subconsciously) is No win, no party. It's not just cycling either. For example the national Rugby team oscillates between being the GOATS of the sport whenever they're beating the All Blacks again to being absolute morons and crud unworthy of the jersey when the perfidious Albion beat them at Twickenham.

So no one is going to turn on Netflix to listen to Marc Madiot give inspirational speeches to riders who struggle to make the time cut.
 
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My biggest problem with the Decathlon episode is that it was all about them. They could have talked about some other team. Every other episode had more then one team. (Also ironic that they paint the new CEO has the bad guy, when Deacthlon are actually getting better.)
 
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I'm overall enjoying it, as in previous years. It is definitely best watched in French original audio with English subtitles. I'll certainly miss it when it's gone - it's not like there is anything to replace it with.

I am however shocked after getting through episode 6 about Cav that they just ignored him vomiting and almost not making the cut off in the early stages. It is just insane to have that epic story line left out.

I also don't mind the French focus because if I'm honest I don't care about, or understand most of these teams stories during the tour, but they are nice human interest stories I can enjoy not that I would not get into otherwise.
 
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Netserk said:
French fans are more important than all non-European fans combined. The entire race this year is in France, there is simply no more important constituency. It requires LOCAL support to keep the greatest bike race running.
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Like the Tour de France is in risk of getting canceled... if you're right, and it's important to please the French audience, then why don't they watch it in massive numbers? The only two countries where this series is popular right now are (perhaps unsurprisingly) Slovenia and Denmark, where it's 2nd on the most watched chart on Netflix. In Belgium it's 5th and in France it's 6th. Netherlands 10th, and that's about it, as far as I can see.
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
It seems the Tour is all about stress, frustration and fight for sponsors approval. If you ride the Tour you end up disappointed, unless your name is Pogacar :p. Teddy was presented a bit like the Voldemort of cycling.

OTOH Vingo made a very positive impression, his struggle to come back and win the race after the crash was presented very well and I liked it. Some will definitely become his fans after watching this.
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I agree Jonas comes off as likable as he has ever been this season. Last season Jonas was a suspect rider and winning machine, against poor Pog who fought on bravely despite being crushed in the stage 16 TT and then crumbling mentally and physically on Loze. This season despite losing the last two tours to Jonas, Pog is the tough guy in total control with his super team with impossibly large amounts of money - pointing out and taking advantage of all Jonas' fears and weaknesses.

Basically the French love a second place finisher and are not so keen on the winner 😛

In fairness I've still got two episodes up go but I can't see the narrative changing 😅
 
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Rackham said:
The show's main problem (among all the other documented ones) is it treats GC like an afterthought. It's just a sort of dramatized lifestyle vlog set during the TdF featuring various 'actors' (some relevant, others not) that pushes the daily battle for yellow into the background and doesn't follow any sort of linearity in terms of timeline.

It says Vingegaard's win on stage 11 was all about overcoming his crash and showing his worth again. But what that really was in context was an exciting GC fight that suggested there would perhaps be a tighter battle for the win. Then Pog blew that all away in the Pyrenees when he demolished everyone.

Netflix ignores the 'sport', basically.
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Isn't that perfectly in line with current-day sensibilities?
 
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