Two Doping Related Stories

[DirtyWorks]

1. A review of a Freddy Maertens biography. It has some nice tidbits from the 70's-90. http://www.podiumcafe.com/2010/8/25/1649602/fall-from-grace-by-freddy-maertens#storyjump

2. An interview with another Bio-Passport member. Very pragmatic view of the current state of doping. http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2010/robin-parisotto

 

[Mich78BEL]

thanks for the Maertens story, looking closer at his palmares, never realised he won so much, 54 wins in 76, 53 in 77...

 

[Escarabajo]

I guess this has been mentioned before, but I probably missed it. But I thought the Tourmalet in 2003 was climbed on a different direction. Does anyone know?

If that's true the times between Ullrich - Armstrong and Schleck - Contador and not comparable. Having said that, Mr. Parisotto is practically implying that Armstrong was a doper. No surprises but it is a public opinion now.

Thanks.

 

[fmk_RoI]

FYI, more Freddy Maertens tidbits from the 70s and 80s. http://www.podiumcafe.com/2010/9/24/1707769/freddy-maertens-take-two

 

[davestoller]

I guess this has been mentioned before, but I probably missed it. But I thought the Tourmalet in 2003 was climbed on a different direction. Does anyone know?

If that's true the times between Ullrich - Armstrong and Schleck - Contador and not comparable. Having said that, Mr. Parisotto is practically implying that Armstrong was a doper. No surprises but it is a public opinion now.

Thanks.

Yes, they were absolutely in different directions. What a complete tool Parisotto is.

If this is one of the unbiased, scientific, neutral experts who casually lets it drop that he has no idea about the races, less than the average forum poster, yet leaps to huge conclusions based on these times--that tells you all you need to know about how that organization runs.

I think it is highly improper for him to comment about anything at all in any race at any time. THe fact he did so and showed so much bias to me means he should immediately resign or be fired.

I could accept it if some lab rat scientist who never followed the sport simply went to meetings and then gave scientific opinions about lab tests, but this is different.

 

[Ferminal]

Yes, they were absolutely in different directions. What a complete tool Parisotto is.

If this is one of the unbiased, scientific, neutral experts who casually lets it drop that he has no idea about the races, less than the average forum poster, yet leaps to huge conclusions based on these times--that tells you all you need to know about how that organization runs.

I think it is highly improper for him to comment about anything at all in any race at any time. THe fact he did so and showed so much bias to me means he should immediately resign or be fired.

I could accept it if some lab rat scientist who never followed the sport simply went to meetings and then gave scientific opinions about lab tests, but this is different.

Well said.

(I must have missed this thread first time around)

 

[acoggan]

If this is one of the unbiased, scientific, neutral experts

So what is Parisotto's background, and how did he come to serve on the biopassport committee?

Based on the interview linked to from the first story, he doesn't seem to have a very good understanding of things that I would expect somebody in that position to possess (e.g., how CO is used to measure total Hb).

 

[Tubeless]

So what is Parisotto's background, and how did he come to serve on the biopassport committee?

Based on the interview linked to from the first story, he doesn't seem to have a very good understanding of things that I would expect somebody in that position to possess (e.g., how CO is used to measure total Hb).

Are you referring to this Q & A?

CN: In order to combat drug transfusions, there are suggestions that a test for total body haemoglobin should be brought in...

RP: I certainly think it would be something that is well worth considering. It is a test that can be done on a fingerprick sample, so it is very easy to administer. From the research that I have read, it is a really good indicator that someone has manipulated their blood.)

The difficult part of administering the CO test is to get the subject to take the CO without cheating. He's correct that once inhaled in full, the blood test part is simple and conclusive - obviously would have to be part of the biological profile to compared to previous total Hb levels.