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What do you mean? The similar names? One is an American (of Belgian descent) and the other is a Belgian.RedheadDane said:
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Jumbo-Visma is the next team to announce their own development squad. Starts in 2020 and will be composed out of 10-12 mostly dutch riders. Team will be lead by Robbert de Groot and Merijn Zeeman.
https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/3492322/jumbo-visma-begint-talententeam?utm_source=www.reddit.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=/r/peloton/comments/bh5k08/jumbo_visma_starts_development_team/
https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/3492322/jumbo-visma-begint-talententeam?utm_source=www.reddit.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=/r/peloton/comments/bh5k08/jumbo_visma_starts_development_team/
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Not U23, but juniors. A young Dane won the E3 Binckbank Classic yesterday. He is not gaining many fans for his victory celebration...
https://twitter.com/mrconde/status/1122149079151255552
https://twitter.com/mrconde/status/1122149079151255552
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My guess is he'll stop celebrating like that quite naturally.
Either by maturing (how many 16-year-olds are completely mature?), or by not winning in such a dominant manner ever again.
Either by maturing (how many 16-year-olds are completely mature?), or by not winning in such a dominant manner ever again.
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He had 1m4s on the next rider. Let's say 1m25s including the celebration. Not exactly 10 minutes or so.
But i also don't really get the hate. The kid won, he's happy. Like the GOAT sign Evenepoel made last year. Sometimes people seem to actively try to be offended.
RedheadDane said:
He had 1m4s on the next rider. Let's say 1m25s including the celebration. Not exactly 10 minutes or so.
But i also don't really get the hate. The kid won, he's happy. Like the GOAT sign Evenepoel made last year. Sometimes people seem to actively try to be offended.
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He was dominant enough that he had time to do stuff like that. In fact, in some way I'd say that if he'd won by 10 minutes, then it would have been even more arrogant. Because then he'd have had time to really consider and plan his victory celebration, as it is now it was probably a weird - not very well thought-out - spur-of-the-moment thing.
Maybe next time he tries to do that he'll have misjudged the advantage, and gets overtaken while he's on the ground...
Logic-is-your-friend said:
He was dominant enough that he had time to do stuff like that. In fact, in some way I'd say that if he'd won by 10 minutes, then it would have been even more arrogant. Because then he'd have had time to really consider and plan his victory celebration, as it is now it was probably a weird - not very well thought-out - spur-of-the-moment thing.
Maybe next time he tries to do that he'll have misjudged the advantage, and gets overtaken while he's on the ground...
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30 seconds would also have been dominant enough... Yet not really dominant.
But again. These are kids, they're happy and are trying to be "clever".
But again. These are kids, they're happy and are trying to be "clever".
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Exactly. If he'd had a 30 seconds advantage, and tried to do that… I think we all know what would have happened.
In fact, I was halfway expecting someone to go past him while he was on the ground. (Didn't know by how much he'd won).
In fact, I was halfway expecting someone to go past him while he was on the ground. (Didn't know by how much he'd won).
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Eschborn-Frankfurt U23:
1. RODENBERG Frederik (ColoQuick)
2. GROVES Kaden (SEG Racing Academy)
3. STEWART Jake (Equipe continentale Groupama-FDJ)
Rodenberg is quite a surprise. He has a long time of injury behind him and managed to beat the favorites once it was clear Coloquick managed to pull it all together for a sprint.
1. RODENBERG Frederik (ColoQuick)
2. GROVES Kaden (SEG Racing Academy)
3. STEWART Jake (Equipe continentale Groupama-FDJ)
Rodenberg is quite a surprise. He has a long time of injury behind him and managed to beat the favorites once it was clear Coloquick managed to pull it all together for a sprint.
Groves is a chance to be picked up by a WT team in either 2020/2021 - Only 20 yrs of age with a decent sprint and can get over some hilly terrain - Rode last year for the Mitchelton Scott Conti and picked up 2 or 3 wins against seniors - Already has 4 wins in the under 23's in 2019 and finished 8th in LBL under 23's.
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As expected, silver medalist ITT U23 in Innsbruck, Brent Van Moer, has won the Belgian NC ITT U23.
More surprising (but not really) was that nearly 3 year younger Ilan Van Wilder came in 3rd, as a first year U23 rider.
Van Wilder (turning 19 later this week) finished a lot of races coming in 2nd, last year at the juniors, behind a kid named Evenepoel. He was 2nd at the NC ITT, at the European championships ITT, and Lunigiana, to name a few.
More surprising (but not really) was that nearly 3 year younger Ilan Van Wilder came in 3rd, as a first year U23 rider.
Van Wilder (turning 19 later this week) finished a lot of races coming in 2nd, last year at the juniors, behind a kid named Evenepoel. He was 2nd at the NC ITT, at the European championships ITT, and Lunigiana, to name a few.
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I think Groves and his SEG teammate Alberto Dainese, who also has 4 wins this year already, will both be on the WT by 2020, unless they feel racing a final season at U23 level would severely benefit them. Given the tendency now for top U23s to go pro after their second or third season (and then there's some guy called Evenepoel who didn't even need U23 racing), I'd be shocked if both riders come back for their 'senior year', if you will.
yaco said:
I think Groves and his SEG teammate Alberto Dainese, who also has 4 wins this year already, will both be on the WT by 2020, unless they feel racing a final season at U23 level would severely benefit them. Given the tendency now for top U23s to go pro after their second or third season (and then there's some guy called Evenepoel who didn't even need U23 racing), I'd be shocked if both riders come back for their 'senior year', if you will.
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Vermaerke is showing himself. Won LBL U23 two weeks ago, and today in the break in Yorkshire. Still only 18.
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Livestream of L'Etoile d'Or
https://www.facebook.com/LEtoile-dOr-415787852297552/
Top 5
1 Alexander Konychev 4:14:45
2 Marten Kooistra 0:02
3 Michele Gazzoli ,,
4 Alberto Dainese ,,
5 Žiga Jerman ,,
https://www.facebook.com/LEtoile-dOr-415787852297552/
Top 5
1 Alexander Konychev 4:14:45
2 Marten Kooistra 0:02
3 Michele Gazzoli ,,
4 Alberto Dainese ,,
5 Žiga Jerman ,,
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Vuelta a Bidasoa, a classic Basque development race in the far east of the province, and including a useful international startlist:
Stage 1: Irun - IrriSarriLand (HTF at open air theme park and MTB facility)
1 Alejandro Ropero (Kometa)
2 Masahiro Ishigami (AVC Aix-en-Provence) +6"
3 Binain Ghirmay Hailu (UCI World Cycling Centre) +6"
Hailu is the next Eritrean prospect, he's 19 while the others ahead of him are two years older. Kometa put 3 in the top 5 and Aix 4 in the top 10. Of the Spanish teams' direct development groups, Caja Rural put Carmelo Urbano 6th at +9" and Lizarte put José Félix Parra 8th at the same time.
Stage 2: Hondarribia - Hondarribia (finish after descent from Jaizkibel)
1 Jonathan Couanon (AVC Aix-en-Provence)
2 Alejandro Ropero (Kometa) +0"
3 Juan Fernando Calle (Caja Rural) +0"
There's a lead group of 7, also with Hailu, Parra, Asier Etxebarria of Laboral Kutxa and Axel Narbonne of Aix-en-Provence, which was almost caught by a chasing gang of 25 or so, in which Ishigami found himself so lost his place on the GC podium to teammate Couanon, who holds it ahead of Parra on countback. The chase only lost 4" in the end so Ishigami is still 5th at just 10" back. It looks like the group's gains will have been made either on the descent or in Hondarribia itself as the first rider over the summit was in the chase.
Stage 3: Hendaia (France) - Urdax (finish 15km after Puerto de Otxondo)
1 Oier Lazkano (Caja Rural)
2 Jonathan Couanon (AVC Aix-en-Provence) +13"
3 Jordi López (Lizarte) +13"
Lazkano wins with a long distance solo after losing some time on the GC before this. A group of around 25 came in together behind that, but it looks like there was a big crash late on as riders finish at +36", then a number of others are in at +13", including Calle and Fancellu who had both been well placed on GC; then more at +1'01", then more at +13" including GC leader Ropero. There are also a lot of DNFs, most notably including Binan Hailu who had been so high up in the GC. It now means Couanon and Parra - both at 9" - are 2nd and 3rd behind Ropero going into today's final stage, which finishes in Irun after descending from the Alto de Erlaitz, after climbing Puerto de Agiña and Collado de Aritxulegi - so a proper climbing day today.
Stage 1: Irun - IrriSarriLand (HTF at open air theme park and MTB facility)
1 Alejandro Ropero (Kometa)
2 Masahiro Ishigami (AVC Aix-en-Provence) +6"
3 Binain Ghirmay Hailu (UCI World Cycling Centre) +6"
Hailu is the next Eritrean prospect, he's 19 while the others ahead of him are two years older. Kometa put 3 in the top 5 and Aix 4 in the top 10. Of the Spanish teams' direct development groups, Caja Rural put Carmelo Urbano 6th at +9" and Lizarte put José Félix Parra 8th at the same time.
Stage 2: Hondarribia - Hondarribia (finish after descent from Jaizkibel)
1 Jonathan Couanon (AVC Aix-en-Provence)
2 Alejandro Ropero (Kometa) +0"
3 Juan Fernando Calle (Caja Rural) +0"
There's a lead group of 7, also with Hailu, Parra, Asier Etxebarria of Laboral Kutxa and Axel Narbonne of Aix-en-Provence, which was almost caught by a chasing gang of 25 or so, in which Ishigami found himself so lost his place on the GC podium to teammate Couanon, who holds it ahead of Parra on countback. The chase only lost 4" in the end so Ishigami is still 5th at just 10" back. It looks like the group's gains will have been made either on the descent or in Hondarribia itself as the first rider over the summit was in the chase.
Stage 3: Hendaia (France) - Urdax (finish 15km after Puerto de Otxondo)
1 Oier Lazkano (Caja Rural)
2 Jonathan Couanon (AVC Aix-en-Provence) +13"
3 Jordi López (Lizarte) +13"
Lazkano wins with a long distance solo after losing some time on the GC before this. A group of around 25 came in together behind that, but it looks like there was a big crash late on as riders finish at +36", then a number of others are in at +13", including Calle and Fancellu who had both been well placed on GC; then more at +1'01", then more at +13" including GC leader Ropero. There are also a lot of DNFs, most notably including Binan Hailu who had been so high up in the GC. It now means Couanon and Parra - both at 9" - are 2nd and 3rd behind Ropero going into today's final stage, which finishes in Irun after descending from the Alto de Erlaitz, after climbing Puerto de Agiña and Collado de Aritxulegi - so a proper climbing day today.
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...102 riders finished stage 3?
It's quite an important development race in Spain, has been running since the 1950s, though was cancelled for most of the 70s. Former winners include Luís Ocaña, Carlos Sastre, Abraham Olano, Txomin Perurena, Pello Ruiz Cabestany, Unai Osa, Chechu Rubiera, Koldo Gil, David Herrero Llorente and Andrey Amador. Some eras are better than others. Jesús Montoya, Santi Blanco, Juanma Garate, Juan José CoboPaco Mancebo, Haimar Zubeldia, Denis Menchov, Iban Mayo, Joaquím Rodríguez, Morris Possoni, Beñat Intxausti, Mikel Astarloza, Jose Joaquín Rojas, Ángel Madrazo, Jesús Herrada, Ramunas Navardauskas, Enric Mas, Jaime Rosón, Mark Padun and Edward Ravasi have all podiumed here too. Strongest edition was probably 1997 - Sastre won ahead of Mancebo and Zubeldia, all of whom had pretty strong careers. 1999 was also strong with Menchov and Mayo on the podium, though they were behind Gorka Arrizabalaga, who was a Euskaltel domestique but no more for a few years in the early 2000s.
It's quite an important development race in Spain, has been running since the 1950s, though was cancelled for most of the 70s. Former winners include Luís Ocaña, Carlos Sastre, Abraham Olano, Txomin Perurena, Pello Ruiz Cabestany, Unai Osa, Chechu Rubiera, Koldo Gil, David Herrero Llorente and Andrey Amador. Some eras are better than others. Jesús Montoya, Santi Blanco, Juanma Garate, Juan José CoboPaco Mancebo, Haimar Zubeldia, Denis Menchov, Iban Mayo, Joaquím Rodríguez, Morris Possoni, Beñat Intxausti, Mikel Astarloza, Jose Joaquín Rojas, Ángel Madrazo, Jesús Herrada, Ramunas Navardauskas, Enric Mas, Jaime Rosón, Mark Padun and Edward Ravasi have all podiumed here too. Strongest edition was probably 1997 - Sastre won ahead of Mancebo and Zubeldia, all of whom had pretty strong careers. 1999 was also strong with Menchov and Mayo on the podium, though they were behind Gorka Arrizabalaga, who was a Euskaltel domestique but no more for a few years in the early 2000s.
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I see. For some reason, Firstcycling (which was opened in one of my browser tabs) only shows 30 riders for each stage.
Libertine Seguros said:
I see. For some reason, Firstcycling (which was opened in one of my browser tabs) only shows 30 riders for each stage.
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Bad collision for Jaakko Hanninen who got hit by race officals motorbike in stage 2, Rhône-Alpes Isère Tour. Hanninen is neopro for Ag2R from August, racing in EC Saint Etienne Loraine at the moment. Explosive climber who took U23 bronze in WC Innsbruck and also won U23 France overall road ranking last year. Looks like at least 6 week break from racing. :sad:
https://www.directvelo.com/actualite/74085/jaakko-hanninen-absent-plusieurs-semaines
https://www.directvelo.com/actualite/74085/jaakko-hanninen-absent-plusieurs-semaines
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Later this week, Ronde de l'Isard starts.
Past decade, winners include Lambrecht, Sivakov, Elissonde, Geniez, Vervaeke...
Podium spots for guys like Bennett, De Plus, Benoot, Dombrowski, Talansky, Teuns, Castroviejo...
Startlist (prov): https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=241&y=2019&k=start
Stages:
May 23rd - 145 km - Mas-d'Azil
May 24th - 136,7 km - Castillon-en-Couserans
May 25th - 141,3 km - Quérigut
May 26th - 154,1 km - Saint-Girons
Past decade, winners include Lambrecht, Sivakov, Elissonde, Geniez, Vervaeke...
Podium spots for guys like Bennett, De Plus, Benoot, Dombrowski, Talansky, Teuns, Castroviejo...
Startlist (prov): https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=241&y=2019&k=start
Stages:
May 23rd - 145 km - Mas-d'Azil
May 24th - 136,7 km - Castillon-en-Couserans
May 25th - 141,3 km - Quérigut
May 26th - 154,1 km - Saint-Girons
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Uuuhhh... are you sure of that?
https://www.gabonreview.com/wp-content/uploads/Biniam-Girmay-Hailu.jpg
Libertine Seguros said:
Uuuhhh... are you sure of that?
https://www.gabonreview.com/wp-content/uploads/Biniam-Girmay-Hailu.jpg
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There was a screenshot in the Evenepoel topic of a website according to which he was two years older.
Anyway, he beat Evenepoel once, last year, by sucking his wheel for 40km, playing for dead, and then outsprinting him :lol:
He also won a sprint early this season vs Greipel among others.
Ludwigzgz said:Libertine Seguros said:
Uuuhhh... are you sure of that?
https://www.gabonreview.com/wp-content/uploads/Biniam-Girmay-Hailu.jpg
There was a screenshot in the Evenepoel topic of a website according to which he was two years older.
Anyway, he beat Evenepoel once, last year, by sucking his wheel for 40km, playing for dead, and then outsprinting him :lol:
He also won a sprint early this season vs Greipel among others.
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Andreas Leknessund joining Sunweb in 2021. Great prospect for Sunweb, considering they also have Marc Hirschi, Oomen and Storer as young climbers.
https://teamsunweb.com/welcome-andreas/
https://teamsunweb.com/welcome-andreas/
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