Please stop posting links to this absolutely awful website. It's pure clickbait, and they just run articles through Google translate. It contains literally translated Dutch expressions like "there is no way to tie a rope to it". So bad.
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So what about Hermsen's comment though, "it is a team of nothing without Tadej Pogačar. They just don’t have a plan. They figure it out halfway through" ? Is this not the usual description of Team UAE on this forum?
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Lettuce be real, quoting Jan Hermsen like he is some sort of authority when he knows of tooting nor blowing is the real problem here.
Majka seem to be in the "mother hen" phase of his career, after Pogacar, he adopted "Torito" as well. But yeah, I've got the impression that UAE domestiques stenght depends on how much they care about the captain. We saw Majka, Bjerg and even Soler give it all for Pogi, but Ayuso just doesn't seem to inspire the same type of loyality.
I have to agee with the many opinions about the very strage dynamics in this team, it doesn't look like there is real tension or hostility between the riders, but they also are unable to cooperate in a race unless the stars align just right.
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Ayuso had Hirschi riding all out for him at the 2023 Tour de Suisse. So that's obviously not true.
It's not that Hirschi has a great reputation as a helper either . Also due to injuries, but there is still that attack on his own team leader at the 2021 Tour of the Basque Country.
It's not that Hirschi has a great reputation as a helper either . Also due to injuries, but there is still that attack on his own team leader at the 2021 Tour of the Basque Country.
Not sure, I think the finish was sort of comparable to Milan's win on Stage 7 of Tirreno-Adriatico (with the difference that one was flat, the other at 5%). In both, the lead out man 'escaped' and got a nice advantage. Milan won because Consonni was there to drag it back, Pogacar didn't have that rider and it probably would've been too much, even for him, to chase Schultz down solo.
He should've gone earlier, but I don't think there is too much to read into it either for UAE or Pogacar – it's an unusual type of finish, somewhere between a false flat and hill, and they don't come about too often with a sizeable peloton. Neither UAE nor Pogacar played it particularly well but it happens, probably lacked a bit of touch/racecraft but, like I said, unusual finish that isn't replicated much in major races. Learning experience, really.
I would say from the outside Jumbo seem such a more organised and focused team
UAE have alot of talent but it seems like everyone is doing their own thing
This is not the riders fault. Its the management and DSs job to get the discipline in
Also Pog wants to be everyone's friend...that is fine but if you are the leader sometimes you need to kick ass
UAE have alot of talent but it seems like everyone is doing their own thing
This is not the riders fault. Its the management and DSs job to get the discipline in
Also Pog wants to be everyone's friend...that is fine but if you are the leader sometimes you need to kick ass
That's fair, I agree Pogacar undersold himself and raced too conservatively.
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Question!
Will the devo team eventually be renamed to "Gen Alpha"?
Will the devo team eventually be renamed to "Gen Alpha"?
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Haha good question - I guess when they have riders born from 2010
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So Almeida can be a difference maker as a domestique after all.
Great effort yesterday: nobody left on Pog's wheel when he was finished working. His pacing is perfect for a mountain train.
Great effort yesterday: nobody left on Pog's wheel when he was finished working. His pacing is perfect for a mountain train.
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With Almeida there's seems to be a pattern that if people criticise him on something he'll work on it! When people said he was not a good enough climber what did he do? He focused on climbing. When people said it made him lose his sprint and TT he focused back at those. When mocked for being a bad descender he fixed that. When mocked for being allergic to rain or being a bad domestique he fixed that to.
Mock him and he's gonna prove you wrong again and again. His tenacity is insane!
Please mock him for being unable to challenge Vingegaard and Pogacar. Maybe there's hope that someone starts beating them, after all.
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Wouldn't challenging Pogačar put him back in the "bad domestique" category?
We can fix that with criticising Almeida about signing for teams where he's not a clear leader!
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UAE looks a lot stronger as a team than VLAB so far this year.
Only Vingo and Jorgie are looking particularly strong for VLAB, and no doubt WVA will excel as far as doms go, but McNulty, Fisher-Black, Yates, Ayuso, Almeida, Del Toro, Politt and Wellens have turned in superb performances already this year. Albeit not all of those will be at the tour, but the performance coaches seem to be on point this year, and hopefully the balance will tilt towards UAE this July since Ving has had a bit of an advantage team wise (and mano a mano?) the last couple years.
Only Vingo and Jorgie are looking particularly strong for VLAB, and no doubt WVA will excel as far as doms go, but McNulty, Fisher-Black, Yates, Ayuso, Almeida, Del Toro, Politt and Wellens have turned in superb performances already this year. Albeit not all of those will be at the tour, but the performance coaches seem to be on point this year, and hopefully the balance will tilt towards UAE this July since Ving has had a bit of an advantage team wise (and mano a mano?) the last couple years.
I think it is premature to say that.
Tratnik, Vinge and Jorgenson been great.
They also had riders who has been sick or crashed. Guys like Laporte, Hagenes, Kelderman and Van Baarle.
Van Aert has two wins this year and not missed the podium in the last three races, despite him receiving criticism on here. It says more about this forum than anything else.
Kooij won races.
Kuss back to normal. Uijtebroeks struggling. Guys like Tulett, Valte, Staune-Mittet... not making much noise.
Of course they miss a rider like Roglic, who has been a winning machine for them in races but other than that... things seem pretty normal.
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Last year UAE was just as good or better as a team at the Tour. They did want they wanted to knocking Jumbo’s domestiques off and overtaking the Jumbo train. Vingegaard was just superior the final week. Only time Jumbo looked better was stage 5.
In the end teammates probably wont matter much anyway at the Tour de France. Pogacar and Vingegaard are so much above their teammates that if you need them you are most likely in big trouble. Surely there can always be a situation in which you attack and close a gap to a teammate ahead of you who is able to help in flat parts. But if that scenario takes place, Pogacar or Vingegaard is already in big trouble anyway as he lost the backwheel of his opponent.
We talk so much about the teams at the Grand Tours, especially the Tour de France, but if the last years have shown one thing, then that in the end the top riders just need to have the better legs than their opponent.
We talk so much about the teams at the Grand Tours, especially the Tour de France, but if the last years have shown one thing, then that in the end the top riders just need to have the better legs than their opponent.
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https://youtu.be/8CrSWYo_4aM?si=pBOm7Ctf2ZMT2k7FPraising Soler and Almeida while simultaneously saying he had to win for them 🫢🤔
It makes him sound so nice, but if I was his teammates I'd feel belittled. 🫨
Giving gifts is one thing but when gift giving fails don't rub it in 🤫🤣🤣
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I know I keep ranting about how insufficient their national champion jerseys are, but these three words really highlights my point:
"Was it Hirschi?"
When someone is national champion, that rider should be rather easy to identify. Hirschi's jersey should literally be big plus.
"Was it Hirschi?"
When someone is national champion, that rider should be rather easy to identify. Hirschi's jersey should literally be big plus.
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