UCI World Cup 2010 - if it was still there

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Gilbert would've dominated:

UCI CDM - Old Style (9 races, since Zürich doesn't excist anymore)

1 GILBERT Philippe 320
2 FREIRE GOMEZ Oscar 212
3 CANCELLARA Fabian 209
4 BOONEN Tom 176
5 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 170
6 FARRAR Tyler 136
7 HESJEDAL Ryder 116
8 HUSHOVD Thor 102
9 SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 100
10 KOLOBNEV Alexandr 74
11 LEUKEMANS Björn 74
12 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 70
13 SCARPONI Michele 70
14 FURLAN Angelo 70
15 BENNATI Daniele 68
16 HAMMOND Roger 68
17 LASTRAS GARCIA Pablo 66
18 GASPAROTTO Enrico 63
19 FLECHA GIANNONI Juan Antonio 58
20 EVANS Cadel 53
21 OFFREDO Yoann 53
22 SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel 52
23 SCHLECK Fränk 52
24 GREIPEL Andre 50
25 PETACCHI Alessandro 50
26 SASTRE CANDIL Carlos 50
27 STEEGMANS Gert 50
28 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar 49
29 HORNER CHRIS 49
30 IGLINSKIY Maxim 48
31 BARREDO LLAMAZALES Carlos 48
32 SCHLECK Andy 44
33 GESINK Robert 42
34 NIBALI Vincenzo 41
35 MARCATO Marco 40
36 DE WAELE Bert 40
37 FUGLSANG Jakob 40
38 HINAULT Sébastien 40
39 KRISTOFF Alexander 40
40 MODOLO Sacha 40
41 LODEWYCK Klaas 40
42 CUNEGO Damiano 39
43 MARTENS Paul 38
44 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin 36
45 DAVIS Allan 36
46 KREUZIGER Roman 36
47 ARASHIRO Yukiya 36
48 VAN AVERMAET Greg 35
49 ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 32
50 HINCAPIE George 32
51 FEILLU Romain 32
52 HONDO Danilo 32
53 EISEL Bernhard 30
54 ROCHE Nicolas 29
55 GINANNI Francesco 28
56 GUESDON Frédéric 28
57 LEEZER Tom 28
58 NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 28
59 POZZATO Filippo 28
60 BRESCHEL Matti 27
61 SANTAMBROGIO Mauro 24
62 HOSTE Leif 24
63 MATA CABELLO Enrique 24
64 WEYLANDT Wouter 24
65 HAYMAN Mathew 23
66 WEGMANN Fabian 22
67 MONDORY Lloyd 21
68 CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 20
69 KROON Karsten 20
70 WYNANTS Maarten 18
71 CHAVANEL Sylvain 17
72 IVANOV Serguei 17
73 VOECKLER Thomas 16
74 PAOLINI Luca 16
75 BONNET William 16
76 CARUSO Giampaolo 16
77 HOOGERLAND Johnny 16
78 PORTE Richie 16
79 ROULSTON Hayden 16
80 CHAVANEL Sébastien 16
81 GERRANS Simon 15
82 GUSEV Vladimir 15
83 RAST Grégory 15
84 MCEWEN Robbie 15
85 ROELANDTS Jürgen 14
86 GESLIN Anthony 14
87 VANDENBROECK Jurgen 14
88 COYOT Arnaud 14
89 URAN URAN Rigoberto 14
90 VANDENBERGH Stijn 14
91 RAVARD Anthony 14
92 SÖRENSEN Chris Anker 13
93 CURVERS Roy 13
94 MOLLEMA Bauke 13
95 VAUGRENARD Benoît 13
96 VEELERS Tom 13
97 PICHOT Alexandre 13
98 DEVENYNS Dries 12
99 KLEMME Dominic 12
100 LEQUATRE Geoffroy 12
101 MORENO BAZAN Javier 12
102 WROLICH Peter 12
103 VANMARCKE Sep 11
104 VORGANOV Eduard 11
105 CAPECCHI Eros 11
106 HULSMANS Kevin 11
107 KNEES Christian 10
108 BURGHARDT Marcus 10
109 HAEDO Juan José 10
110 KHALILOV Mikhaylo 10
111 CHAINEL Steve 9
112 GARZELLI Stefano 9
113 MIHOLJEVIC Vladimir 9
114 PLAZA MOLINA Ruben 9
115 SUTTON Christopher 9
116 MAZZANTI Luca 8
117 GUTIERREZ PALACIOS Jose Ivan 8
118 HUNT Jeremy 8
119 BACQUET Fabien 8
120 ERVITI OLLO Imanol 7
121 GERDEMANN Linus 7
122 LADAGNOUS Matthieu 7
123 PATERSKI Maciej 7
124 MONFORT Maxime 6
125 CLAUDE Mathieu 6
126 STEENSEN André 6
127 PINEAU Cédric 6
128 SENTJENS Roy 5
129 BAK Lars 5
130 IMPEY Daryl 5
131 ISASI FLORES Iñaki 5
132 DUMOULIN Samuel 5
133 LE MEVEL Christophe 4
134 ROY Jérémy 4
135 BAUGNIES Jerome 4
136 BONNAFOND Guillaume 4
137 LAGUTIN Sergey 4
138 LANGEVELD Sebastian 4
139 MAASKANT Martijn 4
140 OSS Daniel 3
141 SIEBERG Marcel 3
142 CUMMINGS Stephen 3
143 GARCIA DAPENA David 3
144 KOREN Kristjan 3
145 VAN GOOLEN Jurgen 3
146 CASPER Jimmy 3
147 FLORENCIO CABRE Xavier 2
148 PAUWELS Serge 2
149 MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel 2
150 TANKINK Bram 2
151 VERDUGO MARCOTEGUI Gorka 2
152 NEIRYNCK Stijn 2
153 DEVOLDER Stijn 1
154 ROGERS Michael 1
155 RUBIERA VIGIL Jose Luis 1
156 TONDO VOLPINI Xavier 1

UCI CDM New Style (irl Quebec, Montreal, Fleche Wallone, Gent Wevelgem and Plouay have the same UCI and CQ status as Amstel, Vattenfall, San Sebastian, thus 14 world cup races)

1 GILBERT Philippe 402
2 FARRAR Tyler 226
3 FREIRE GOMEZ Oscar 226
4 HESJEDAL Ryder 226
5 CANCELLARA Fabian 209
6 GESINK Robert 204
7 BOONEN Tom 176
8 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 170
9 EVANS Cadel 153
10 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 140
11 EISEL Bernhard 130
12 VOECKLER Thomas 116
13 GOSS Matthew 110
14 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin 106
15 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar 106
16 SAGAN Peter 105
17 OFFREDO Yoann 103
18 HUSHOVD Thor 102
19 SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 100
20 SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel 98
21 CUNEGO Damiano 91
22 HORNER CHRIS 86
23 DUQUE Leonardo Fabio 84
24 VANMARCKE Sep 81
25 IGLINSKIY Maxim 76
26 KOLOBNEV Alexandr 74
27 LEUKEMANS Björn 74
28 ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 72
29 HINCAPIE George 72
30 CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 70
31 LASTRAS GARCIA Pablo 70
32 SCARPONI Michele 70
33 FURLAN Angelo 70
34 BENNATI Daniele 68
35 HAMMOND Roger 68
36 MARCATO Marco 68
37 SCHLECK Andy 68
38 GAVAZZI Francesco 67
39 SANTAMBROGIO Mauro 67
40 MONFORT Maxime 66
41 GASPAROTTO Enrico 65
42 BRESCHEL Matti 59
43 FLECHA GIANNONI Juan Antonio 58
44 BALLAN Alessandro 55
45 DE WAELE Bert 55
46 NIBALI Vincenzo 55
47 FUGLSANG Jakob 54
48 SCHLECK Fränk 52
49 GREIPEL Andre 50
50 PETACCHI Alessandro 50
51 SASTRE CANDIL Carlos 50
52 WEGMANN Fabian 50
53 STEEGMANS Gert 50
54 BARREDO LLAMAZALES Carlos 48
55 FEILLU Romain 48
56 ROELANDTS Jürgen 46
57 ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin 44
58 HINAULT Sébastien 40
59 KRISTOFF Alexander 40
60 MODOLO Sacha 40
61 LODEWYCK Klaas 40
62 OSS Daniel 39
63 MARTENS Paul 38
64 VAN AVERMAET Greg 37
65 DAVIS Allan 36
66 KREUZIGER Roman 36
67 SCHEIRLINCKX Staf 36
68 ARASHIRO Yukiya 36
69 REDA Francesco 33
70 HONDO Danilo 32
71 PAOLINI Luca 32
72 CHAVANEL Sylvain 31
73 SÖRENSEN Chris Anker 31
74 LE MEVEL Christophe 30
75 ROCHE Nicolas 29
76 GINANNI Francesco 28
77 GUESDON Frédéric 28
78 LEEZER Tom 28
79 NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 28
80 POZZATO Filippo 28
81 GESLIN Anthony 27
82 KNEES Christian 25
83 BOTCHAROV Alexandre 24
84 HOSTE Leif 24
85 MATA CABELLO Enrique 24
86 WEYLANDT Wouter 24
87 HAYMAN Mathew 23
88 MONDORY Lloyd 21
89 VANDENBROECK Jurgen 21
90 KROON Karsten 20
91 CURVERS Roy 19
92 VORGANOV Eduard 18
93 WYNANTS Maarten 18
94 IVANOV Serguei 17
95 ALBASINI Michael 16
96 BONNET William 16
97 CARUSO Giampaolo 16
98 DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David 16
99 HOOGERLAND Johnny 16
100 PORTE Richie 16
101 ROULSTON Hayden 16
102 CHAVANEL Sébastien 16
103 APOLLONIO Davide 15
104 GERRANS Simon 15
105 GUSEV Vladimir 15
106 RAST Grégory 15
107 MCEWEN Robbie 15
108 COYOT Arnaud 14
109 MORKOV CHRISTENSEN Michael 14
110 SENTJENS Roy 14
111 SIEBERG Marcel 14
112 URAN URAN Rigoberto 14
113 VANDENBERGH Stijn 14
114 RAVARD Anthony 14
115 KUSCHYNSKI Aleksandr 13
116 MOLLEMA Bauke 13
117 PINOT Thibaut 13
118 VAUGRENARD Benoît 13
119 VEELERS Tom 13
120 PICHOT Alexandre 13
121 BOLE Grega 12
122 COOKE Baden 12
123 DEVENYNS Dries 12
124 FLORENCIO CABRE Xavier 12
125 KLEMME Dominic 12
126 LEQUATRE Geoffroy 12
127 MAZZANTI Luca 12
128 MORENO BAZAN Javier 12
129 WROLICH Peter 12
130 CAPECCHI Eros 11
131 HULSMANS Kevin 11
132 KLIMOV Serguei 11
133 BURGHARDT Marcus 10
134 HAEDO Juan José 10
135 KHALILOV Mikhaylo 10
136 PINEAU Jérôme 10
137 ROY Jérémy 10
138 VANSUMMEREN Johan 10
139 CHAINEL Steve 9
140 GARZELLI Stefano 9
141 HENDERSON Gregory 9
142 MARTIN Daniel 9
143 MIHOLJEVIC Vladimir 9
144 PLAZA MOLINA Ruben 9
145 STANGELJ Gorazd 9
146 SUTTON Christopher 9
147 GUTIERREZ PALACIOS Jose Ivan 8
148 HUNT Jeremy 8
149 MINARD Sébastien 8
150 MORI Manuele 8
151 PAUWELS Serge 8
152 BACQUET Fabien 8
153 ERVITI OLLO Imanol 7
154 GERDEMANN Linus 7
155 LADAGNOUS Matthieu 7
156 LORENZETTO Mirco 7
157 PATERSKI Maciej 7
158 CLAUDE Mathieu 6
159 STEENSEN André 6
160 TUFT Svein 6
161 PINEAU Cédric 6
162 BAK Lars 5
163 GALLAND Jérémie 5
164 IMPEY Daryl 5
165 ISASI FLORES Iñaki 5
166 PONZI Simone 5
167 DUMOULIN Samuel 5
168 BAUGNIES Jerome 4
169 BONNAFOND Guillaume 4
170 LAGUTIN Sergey 4
171 LANGEVELD Sebastian 4
172 LEIPHEIMER Levi 4
173 LEVARLET Guillaume 4
174 LÖFKVIST Thomas 4
175 MAASKANT Martijn 4
176 CIOLEK Gerald 3
177 CUMMINGS Stephen 3
178 GARCIA DAPENA David 3
179 JUFRE POU Josep 3
180 KLÖDEN Andreas 3
181 KOREN Kristjan 3
182 VAN GOOLEN Jurgen 3
183 CASPER Jimmy 3
184 LACOMBE Keven 2
185 MACHADO Tiago Jose Pinto 2
186 MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel 2
187 TANKINK Bram 2
188 VERDUGO MARCOTEGUI Gorka 2
189 NEIRYNCK Stijn 2
190 CATALDO Dario 1
191 DEVOLDER Stijn 1
192 ESKOV Nikita 1
193 QUINZIATO Manuel 1
194 ROGERS Michael 1
195 RUBIERA VIGIL Jose Luis 1
196 TONDO VOLPINI Xavier 1

 

[ingsve]

Very nice. That would be far more interesting than the PT if the riders really went for it like the old World Cup.

 

[For The World]

I must say I do miss seeing guys fighting it out in the one day races for the World Cup jersey. I can see why it was abandoned (in a way), but it really did promote better racing, because there was something to get for racing more one day races. I miss the days where you had guys like Tchmil, Museeuw, Duclos-Laselle, Baldato, Bartoli and the like gunning for the jersey.

I did expect to see Philippe Gilbert at the top of the list before I opened the thread. I just watched the footage of Giro di Lombardia last night and he's just too strong at the moment.

 

[auscyclefan94]

UCI World Cup will never work in modern day cycling. Protur is better though far from perfect.

 

[il_fiammingo]

UCI World Cup will never work in modern day cycling. Protur is better though far from perfect.

why is that?

 

[auscyclefan94]

why is that?

All points systems for a season of races are never that prestigious and no rider goes out and tries to win it. Unless there is a considerable prize, it will never work.

Looking at the world cup point system. Does it reflect the best riders of the year? No. points systems never really are accurate.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

It's so completely obvious you only have been following cycling for a very short time ACF, if you don't know what the world cup is and argue that "it wouldn't work"

 

[Dutchsmurf]

Looking at the world cup point system. Does it reflect the best riders of the year? No. points systems never really are accurate.

Actually, it does reflect the best rider in the classics, which kinda is the whole point of that ranking. Gilbert, Cancellara and Freire were the best in those and are on top of that ranking. It isn't supposed to show the best rider in all races, just in a selection of important one day races. And it does the job.

 

[For The World]

All points systems for a season of races are never that prestigious and no rider goes out and tries to win it. Unless there is a considerable prize, it will never work.

Looking at the world cup point system. Does it reflect the best riders of the year? No. points systems never really are accurate.

You'd better not tell that to those guys on the track that are in some strange event called the Points Race.

Who needs points to determine the winner of the Green or Polkadot Jersey? It should just be determined by the first person across the line on the last sprint, or the last mountain, right?

We should do away with those pesky world rankings that the UCI has for professional road racers. No one needs to know who's won or placed high and consistently in races during the season. No one wants to be world number one. Screw that noise!

Seriously dude - i realise you're only 16 (otherwise, why would you register with the number 94 in your username), but go and find someone who has a pile of old cycling magazines from the late 80s through to the late 90s, and read about some really interesting editions of the races you've come to follow, and see that things like the UCI World Cup DID work, and riders DID think it was prestigious.

 

[il_fiammingo]

All points systems for a season of races are never that prestigious and no rider goes out and tries to win it. Unless there is a considerable prize, it will never work.

Looking at the world cup point system. Does it reflect the best riders of the year? No. points systems never really are accurate.

?? Looking at Dekker_Tifosi's virtual World Cup, I think it does. But you have to keep in mind it's not about the best rider of the year but the best classics rider. It always has been. And as mentioned before the classics giants really made an objective of winning the this prestigeous ranking, unlike the protour ranking. Fondriest, Museeuw, Tchmil, Bartoli etc rode every WC race from Sanremo to the AGR (after LBL back then)

 

[hrotha]

?? Looking at Dekker_Tifosi's virtual World Cup, I think it does. But you have to keep in mind it's not about the best rider of the year but the best classics rider. It always has been. And as mentioned before the classics giants really made an objective of winning the this prestigeous ranking, unlike the protour ranking. Fondriest, Museeuw, Tchmil, Bartoli etc rode every WC race from Sanremo to the AGR (after LBL back then)

Adding to this, the reason the World Cup worked was that it was a classics competition. The reason the UCI world ranking doesn't work is that it tries to cover everything, making it impossible for any rider to target it all, but since it excludes all non-Pro Tour races it's also not as good as the CQ ranking at what it tries to do.

 

[L'arriviste]

Adding to this, the reason the World Cup worked was that it was a classics competition. The reason the UCI world ranking doesn't work is that it tries to cover everything, making it impossible for any rider to target it all, but since it excludes all non-Pro Tour races it's also not as good as the CQ ranking at what it tries to do.

+1. There should be a reward for consistency and for the "other" (some would say "better") face of cycling. Give or take the odd one or two lacunae, the list corresponds to the most exciting, aggressive, interesting riders out there, for my money. It also recognises a lot of tough riding done by riders like Kolobnev, Leukemans and Hammond.

 

[ingsve]

Just because the World Cup uses points it doesn't mean it tries to find the best rider of the season. What is does is determines the winner of the World Cup and that was a prestigious competition in itself to win.

Another thing that it does is increase the prestige of the individual races involved. Today all focus is on the five monuments and all other classics are left further behind in prestige and even attention by some teams. Take a race like Paris-Tours which had some teams show up with their C-lineup. That would never have happened when the race was a World Cup race. Even Classica San Sebastian gets less attention nowadays than it did before.

 

[galaxy1]

i used to love the old world cup, fully agree with all the positive comments about it. it also had an additional benefit that there was genuine interest in who won the sprint for 7th place, instead of today: the winner has gone, let's all sit up. the downside was the occasional negative tactics in the last couple of races by overall winners needing low placings and no accidents.

protour has some good features, but unfortunately has made competition in the classics less interesting.

 

[auscyclefan94]

It's so completely obvious you only have been following cycling for a very short time ACF, if you don't know what the world cup is and argue that "it wouldn't work"

Yes and no. Followed races for a while but never had really bothered about World Cup. At least other posters don't shut someone down for not knowing something and explain it to me. If it's about the best classics rider, I find some of the rankings a bit questionable.

 

[L'arriviste]

Yes and no. Followed races for a while but never had really bothered about World Cup. At least other posters don't shut someone down for not knowing something and explain it to me. If it's about the best classics rider, I find some of the rankings a bit questionable.

ACF, whatever you may lack in "time served" you certainly make up for in enthusiasm. No-one can doubt that!

 

[ingsve]

It would be fun to see a ral fight between Cancellara and Gilbert for an overall World Cup victory. I'm sure Cancellara could get some points in for example Amsgel Gold Race, Vattenfall Cyclassic and Paris-Tours for example if he was chasing points. Then again Gilbert would be doing the same.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Actually, it does reflect the best rider in the classics, which kinda is the whole point of that ranking. Gilbert, Cancellara and Freire were the best in those and are on top of that ranking. It isn't supposed to show the best rider in all races, just in a selection of important one day races. And it does the job.

Boonen was awesome too, he just didn't win