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UK Cop stumped by law student cyclist who 'jumped red light'

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Benotti69

Benotti69

May 26, 2010
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Policeman made a fool of himself.

The copper should holiday in Italy to see if he can spot 1 bike stopping for a red and then get real.

Empty road and he is pulling a guy for going through a red on a bicycle. Doesn't do himself any favours:rolleyes:
 
pedaling squares

pedaling squares

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What a couple of idiots. The police officer doesn't seem to know the basics of his job; the cyclist seems to be an annoying ***. It's hard to imagine that there isn't a law that requires a person to provide his identity to an officer investigating a traffic offence. If not, that's a pretty basic hole in the law. If so, that's a pretty basic thing the copper ought to know. And there's nothing wrong with a guy filming you while you make a fool of yourself. As for the cyclist, if you hopped a light and the guy stops you, just take your ticket like a big boy.
 
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Geordiedave

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Yup, the only person who looks like a pillock is the cyclist who jumped a light. We bang on about being treat fairly by car users, yet wont abide with the rules of the road?
 
daveinzambia

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Geordiedave said:
Yup, the only person who looks like a pillock is the cyclist who jumped a light. We bang on about being treat fairly by car users, yet wont abide with the rules of the road?
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and people wonder why everyone hates cyclists...

so sick of people that manipulate the law to their benefit and then someone think they are in the right and are preventing the law from abusing powers. OK the cop was a bit of idiot for lying but if you get caught doing something wrong be a man and take your ticket.
 
Quixote

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May I say something to the cyclist in this video...from one cyclist to another. You are a bigtime *sshole. Jumping a stoplight comes with some hazards...the least of which is a citation. Grow-up!
By the way, Nuggs, thanks for bringing the footage...provocative. This one should stimulate some good discussion.
 
woodie

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I'm sorry but this cyclist if a straight and out d**khead and is one of these people who ruins it for everyone. If he ran a red light he broke the law full stop. That's all there is to it and people who do things like this do nothing but make our lives harder and more non-cyclists start to oppose us.

Bloody arrogant law student. This guy should be ashamed of himself.
 
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nuggs1

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There's no denying the cyclist was in the wrong and an annoying git, but the way the officer dealt with the issue is more concerning.

I guy in work got stopped cycling home by the police for not having a bell on his bike and was given a "warning" that they would confiscate the bike if he was caught without a bell again.
 
Master50

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No doubt the cyclist deserves a kick in the shins but of the two clowns in this video the cop is most disappointing. The cop is relying on his uniform for authority and does not know the law very well. Too many times in my life I have been confronted with police that use bullying and intimidation to enforce their particular sense of order which. I have more than once been faced with arguing or complying to an illegal order or search.
While I agree the cyclist deserves a ticket and I also agree he is a jerk the cop also needs a kick in the pants. I wish more uf us would push them a little more to follow the law too.
I am sure there were legal ways to force that cyclist to provide ID and to accept the ticket. The fact that the police officer could not call upon his knowledge to affect a legal arrest or compliance is clear illustration of how we trust them to do the correct thing. So as much as I agree the cyclist deserves a ticket I think he should also go free when the police cannot apply the law as it is written. Of course had this happened in the US I think that guns and handcuffs would have come out. British police don't seem to resort to force nearly as quickly as American police do. Of course that is influenced by the media. Bad Boys.
 
Quixote

Quixote

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Master50 said:
....Of course had this happened in the US I think that guns and handcuffs would have come out. British police don't seem to resort to force nearly as quickly as American police do. Of course that is influenced by the media. Bad Boys.
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Watch "The Wire"! The cyclist would have ended up on a table at the morgue with a bullet in the head and a planted bag of meth where the sun don't shine.
Here's my problem with the cyclist's behavior. Does he think his innocence was proven by spinning this cop in circles? Is he above the law because he knows a bit more about it than the cop? He got caught breaking a universally accepted traffic law. If he had a justified excuse...tell it to the judge.
 
stainlessguy1

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Master50 said:
No doubt the cyclist deserves a kick in the shins but of the two clowns in this video the cop is most disappointing. The cop is relying on his uniform for authority and does not know the law very well. Too many times in my life I have been confronted with police that use bullying and intimidation to enforce their particular sense of order which. I have more than once been faced with arguing or complying to an illegal order or search.
While I agree the cyclist deserves a ticket and I also agree he is a jerk the cop also needs a kick in the pants. I wish more uf us would push them a little more to follow the law too.
I am sure there were legal ways to force that cyclist to provide ID and to accept the ticket. The fact that the police officer could not call upon his knowledge to affect a legal arrest or compliance is clear illustration of how we trust them to do the correct thing. So as much as I agree the cyclist deserves a ticket I think he should also go free when the police cannot apply the law as it is written. Of course had this happened in the US I think that guns and handcuffs would have come out. British police don't seem to resort to force nearly as quickly as American police do. Of course that is influenced by the media. Bad Boys.
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All well written except the last part about the Amereican police.
There are rules that allow the intelligent to also ask questions and not comply with bullying orders . If you watch the video again and then after go to some of the other links on imilar video footage then you will see scenarios. Example
A black man gets stopped for somethng but the officer wants to actually search his car. However , the man declined and wanted to know what he is bein charged with ? the officer couldnt charge him.
Then the man asked if i am not being charged with anything , am i free to go .
The officer had to go back to his car and make up a citation for something totaly different than what he wanted to do to the man, which of course was search his car , but the ticket was for something not working on his car.
Which of course leads us to believe the only reason the officer tried to search his car was because he was a young black man.
You can say no if you know your stuff. Although you must stay calm and polite and not get arrogant , as in the US that can quickly lead to other arrest modes.

I will try to find the link . again.

AS far as the cyclist goes , i believe he wanted to pick child up from school , and i dont think he was trying to do a race start one upsmanship kind of thing, but maybe he rode faster than the cop could follow.
WE all clip in a bit early before a light change so we are straight in line and ready for traffic , we have all done it . The question is was it just that or was he 1/2 way across the intersection. Depending on the severity of the infraction its hard to know without seeing the incident who the bigger jerk was. Maybe the cop had a bigger crap kicking from his CO for not writing enough tickets that day . Who knows how his day started.
Anyhow , i suppose if you were good cop you could have let him off with a warning and not result to grabbing the camera etc. That would of been the best thing for all around. ;)
 
stainlessguy1

stainlessguy1

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video link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2d7-0TDsxnw


ok above is the link ,

Sorry info incorrect , no trouble with car , but the guy finally got citation for excessive lane changing .

The problem with all this is , we are all quick to jump to conclusions so its best to get all the details before we nail either police officer or the person stopped for said infractions.

The British law must be a bit different , but there is no excuse not to know the basic law as a paid officer.
Also no matter what infraction an officer should not lie , breach of public trust. IDCOPLAN ,,, wtf . Especially for a petty offence.
 
boardhanger

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Geordiedave said:
Yup, the only person who looks like a pillock is the cyclist who jumped a light. We bang on about being treat fairly by car users, yet wont abide with the rules of the road?
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On my usual 60mile ride I go through 51 sets of lights in '9' miles on the way out of the city. that's 101 out and back. Not to mention the other42 miles of traffic lights and STOP signs. Cyclists just ain't treated fairly on US roads.
 
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Mostyn

Jan 24, 2012
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nuggs1 said:
There's no denying the cyclist was in the wrong and an annoying git, but the way the officer dealt with the issue is more concerning.

I guy in work got stopped cycling home by the police for not having a bell on his bike and was given a "warning" that they would confiscate the bike if he was caught without a bell again.
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Now that was a stupid cop! NO LAW states you must have a bell fitted to your bicycle! You must have front and rear lights if cycling after dark.
 
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Mostyn

Jan 24, 2012
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tdiethe said:
No, but if you want to see it it's up here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNwnfqEMkOo
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Thank you!

I'm with the cyclist as far as "He knew his Law" although everyone knows that jumping a red light is Illegal and is contained within the traffic act (not sure of the section) but, the policeman was a numpty when it came to knowing the law.

Loved the video! Police man should have warned the cyclist about his action and the dangers of jumping a red light. He could have redeemed himself and repremanded a road user all in one go. Nuff IMHO
 
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