UK General Election

[ferryman]

Surprised there's not been a thread started so far. Lots of Brits on here, so let's hear what your views are. Polls open today and close at 10pm. The polls are 50/50 more or less but it is far more interesting than that given the minority influence. I'll nail my SNP colours to mast right now. Will be a long day and even longer night waiting for the results coming in. What say you fellow Brits?

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I think the reason for a lack of thread is that we've tried pretty hard to steer all politics into the two existing threads.

I'm not going to close this just yet though. Would like some comments, and see how the thread runs it's course, since the election is today.

 

[ferryman]

Re:

I think the reason for a lack of thread is that we've tried pretty hard to steer all politics into the two existing threads.

I'm not going to close this just yet though. Would like some comments, and see how the thread runs it's course, since the election is today.

Unless I'm missing something, the UK election has not been discussed so far? Happy to be directed to another thread if wrong? And for you to close this one..cheers

 

[Amsterhammer]

There are certainly more Brits on CN than on any other page that I frequent, though not many frequent the politics topics. I have to confess that I have been astonished by the total lack of interest about this election amongst Americans who are political animals. I have posted several topics in other places, all of which have disappeared without trace.

Despite the fact that my first wife was English, and my two sons were born British, having lived through the Thatcher years I left Britain without having become an Anglophile, like so many Americans. I am instinctively anti-Tory, so any other permutation suits me better. I have many Scots friends, and I totally get the, "it's sh!te being Scottish" sentiment, so I'm happy to see the SNP do well enough to become a major player in the next parliament. What we're going to see, I think, is a Dutch-like situation where at least three parties will be required to form a viable coalition, within a system that was never intended to cater for coalition-building. Should be fascinating to watch.

 

[gooner]

I have watched all the debates including the leaders of Northern Ireland on Tuesday.

I'm delighted as well to see the SNP doing so well but fear it could something like a Conservative-Lib Dem-DUP coalition of some sort.

Dodds has made big overtures about this and a key will be the Alliance's Naomi Long's seat. If they get that they could have a big card to play with.

 

[Jagartrott]

I think it's amazing that the growing divide between haves and have nots does not seem to be harming Cameron really. Why do so many people vote against their own best interests?

And could someone please kill the 'Taxes are bad, m'kay - everything will work better if we lower taxes' rite? It has exceeded its sell-by date.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Surprised there's not been a thread started so far. Lots of Brits on here, so let's hear what your views are. Polls open today and close at 10pm. The polls are 50/50 more or less but it is far more interesting than that given the minority influence. I'll nail my SNP colours to mast right now. Will be a long day and even longer night waiting for the results coming in. What say you fellow Brits?

Do you vote for a party, individuals or a person for PM? Just asking cuz I don't know.

 

[The Hitch]

You vote for individuals. Basically its like the house of representatives in the US. You vote for a congressman for your local district. At the end of the day the party which has the most congressmen nationwide chooses a House Majority Leader.

Substitute the words MP for Congressman, Constituency for district and Prime Minister for House Majority Leader and you have the system.

 

[Netserk]

As much as I'd like the Liberals to have an even better election than last time, I really hope the Conservatives won't win, so Labour winning would be the lesser of two evils (due to EU politics).

 

[Pricey_sky]

I'm voting tonight and will vote for Labour as I like thier policies the most, however I can't stand Ed Miliband so it's been a little dilemma for me.

 

[Ishiguro]

I'm just praying everyone grows up when it comes to negotiating a coalition. I don't live in hope though...

 

[Echoes]

It's crucial to understand that the SNP does not campaign for Scottish independence but for Scottish emancipation from Britain AND its direct allegiance to the European Commission (& ECB, NATO, etc), which is an evenmore centralizing and oppressive entity that Britain is. The Commission consists of unelected people who have both executive and legislative powers (+ a say re Justice). In good English we call that a dictatorship. It's a threefold relationship: region, nation and Europe. One entity is too much and that's the nation.

At the Euro Parliament, the SNP belongs to the European Free Alliance, which forms a "cartel" with the Green (formerly led by pedophile Cohn Bendit). The EFA used to include the Flemish separatist N-VA, with N-VA member Eric Defoort as secretary general. The whole parties consists of separatist movement throughout Europe (save of course Germany because Germany is the driving force behind this "divide & conquer" policy), more particularly from the richest regions of the continent who no longer wants to pay for the poorest regions of their respective countries. Artur Mas' separatist party in Catalunya belongs to the EFA. Like there are separatist movements from Cornwall, Friesland, Savoy, Silesia, Alsace ...

They issued their dream map a few years ago:

A lot of institutes at the Euro institutions are lobbying for this dismantling of Europe and disintegration of our member states. One of them is the Association of European Border Regions which is presided by Karl-Heinz Lambertz who is the current President of the Assembly of the small German-speaking community in Belgium. Its aim is to form "euroregions" beyond the national borders of the current member states, reducing them to mere "administrative" borders: e.g. the Catalunyan euroregion putting together the Spanish and French parts of Catalunya. Same for the Basque country, etc.

Then there's the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. All written by Germans (with US approval, of course).

And the Assembly of European Regions, a powerfully lobby in Brussels for the dismantling of Europe. This is how they redesign the continent:

 

[del1962]

Weirdest election I can remember

Normally near where I liveyou see houses with vote labour in the windows, but I can't recall seeing one, there seems a complete disollussionment with Labour in working class areas in the North.

Really think Labour have screwed up with their leader as someone like Blair would have walked this election.

Even despite this I hope Labour has the largest number of seats and could form a coalition with the lib dems as this would be the best case scenario for the UK, the worst case scneario would be a Labour SNP coaltion as this would mean a small part of the UK having far too much influence.

 

[King Boonen]

I'm going for a minority Labour government having to win support on votes from the SNP, Lib Dems and Greens. And I actually think that will be good for Britain and British politics.

 

[ray j willings]

Our MP is shoo in "Lammy" Its just the same old. The main problem I have is the economic system we have in place. Its a system that will always lead to debt. The wealth controlled by the very few and everyone else just playing games with peoples life's and making loads of money whatever the state of the economy. I asked a Vote chaser if she knew "Goldsmiths" She had no idea. How can you change things for real when we have such a system in place where the richest people do nothing but hold our money and gamble with it knowing whatever the outcome it does not effect them. I asked her about inflation and more money being printed. She again had no idea. I asked if she thought the printed money comes for free and once again no idea. I went to my polling station and spoilt my vote and drew a nice picture and added a few nice words. They should have a vote for none above.
Long term plans need to be put in place to sort out the NHS ,Education, Transport etc, once and for all and it should be done by experts in a non party bias way. We need the best people to put in a system that does not get changed every few years and costs a shed load to change because politician's want to stroke their ego's.
MP'S should be working for the people who voted for them and concern themselves with important local concerns.
What we have now more often than not is a candidate who wants to hype themselves up on every media format possible and be famous. No twitter no face book no game shows just do your fu%%ing job.
The whole system needs changing or we all just go round in circles.
If Boris ever becomes PM then that shows you how Fu££ed up the system is.

 

[ferryman]

It's looking like but not for sure that the SNP are going to take 45+ seats in Scotland (that's out of 59). At best, Labour are looking at between 5-10 (against 41 in 2010). It's going to be a long and very interesting and scary night/morning...goodness knows what we are going to wake up to..

 

[Amsterhammer]

SNP expected to jump from 6 to 58!! UKIP - 2

If the exit polls giving the Tories 316 seats is anywhere near correct, it is utterly gobsmacking.

 

[The Hitch]

Holy *** those exit polls.

If they are correct there must have been a massive flaw in the polling. Reminds me of new Hampshire 08.

 

[ferryman]

Re:

SNP expected to jump from 6 to 58!! UKIP - 2

If the exit polls giving the Tories 316 seats is anywhere near correct, it is utterly gobsmacking.

The exit polls in Scotland are wrong, I can confidently predict. 45-50 for SNP I would say. Not been following it as closely in the rest of the UK but 316 seems very high

 

[gooner]

Wow.

All the analysis of the polls the last few weeks went out the window.

Two of the polls, one of which was YouGov that had Labour and Conservative neck and neck did have the undecided at a high number of 17% and 25%. Cameron looks to have got a significant chunk of that.

Even with this surprise exit poll, I still think DUP could be kingmakers.

Interesting now will be Cleggs' and Vince Cable's seats. The latter was by no means a certainty leading up to the week.

 

[AJ101]

The newspapers have been so depressing during this run up. Very biased.

Amazing to discover that none of the big ones pay UK any tax of note either. Even the DM's french resident owner has it registered off shore...

 

[King Boonen]

I love seeing people complain about the possibility Scotland might actually get a say on what happens in the UK... Ridiculous doesn't even begin to describe it.

 

[Amsterhammer]

The clean sweep could become reality after swings of 27 and 34% from Lab to SNP. A revolutionary upheaval is taking place.

 

[Amsterhammer]

#jockalypse.

 

[Jagartrott]

The conservatives must have added something to the tap water.
I see no other rational explanation for this result.