Dr. Maserati said:I have been getting 'lawyered' here for the last 2 days - yet all those have missed one key component of justice.
Where has it been said that CONI's actions were illegal? I have found one report where the Spanish Minister for Sport has misgivings as Judge Serrano was on holidays when CONI made there application.
Either CONIs actions were legal or illegal. Operation Puerto was opened again on 18th January 2009, within days CONI had sent in a formal request for access to "bag no.18" as there was considerable evidence to suggest this belonged to Valverde. The Spanish authorities agreed - if CONIs actions were illegal then why did Valverde not get his legal team to stop this?
Mellow Velo said:Yes ... CONI and by default CAS have not exceeded their remit. In terms of the way the sport is policed, they have followed procedure and stand upon solid legal ground. Spanish law is no longer part of the equation.
+100 - you have both summed this up better than I could.
The evidence has been obtained, and not via illegal means but by an appropriate channel. That the judge was not around at the time is not an issue for either the CONI or the CAS. It is not like these agencies sent in a secret agent to obtain the evidence! Had there been instructions to not hand over the evidence, the CONI would never have received it.
The rulings on the evidence are based on sporting code and rules that the atheletes sign and were in force at the time, not criminal law.
Had Valverde copped to it at the time, he would have faced some form of ban, likely nominal had he 'played ball'. Now the noose appears to be tightening.
BTW - when there are complaints that a panel is biased, as Valverde's lawyers have recently announced in this case, they are usually tabled pro-actively unless it is actually a smoke and mirrors game and actually because the decision is not the one hoped for by the accused.
I will be interested to see how this all ends up.
PS - RR and Python, you 2 appear to be in agreement and arguing over semantics a bit ... relax!