What about Vino?

[movingtarget]

I post here once in a blue moon and don't really make a habit of ensuring that I either jump on every doping bandwagon or check every poster's history before I do so - I was addressing directly the contention that Harmon is some kind of 'upholder of the faith' because he chooses to condemn Vino. You and I are individuals on a forum expressing a personal, subjective opinion. I believe that Harmon can and should be held to a higher standard of objectivity professionalism and that there is a case to be made that, if a professional commentator plays favourites he is a) a hypocrite and b) shouldn't be getting paid for spouting an opinion when I can get that for free here and in the other cycling forums

Since when did sports commentators stop having opinions ? They also forecast results and are often wrong. I see it as part of their role. We live in a world where celebrities, politicians and high profile sportsmen are supposedly role models. Toss in cycling commentators and the idea becomes even sillier. I admired Vino's ride in the LBL last year but he will never be one of my favourite riders. I don't think Harmon's views will influence anyone else and you are right, Magnus Backstedt's commentary is excellent. Harmon has his pet hate's like most people. Sometimes he talks so much it is like white noise and easy to tune out of. The sober tones of Sean Kelly usually bring him back to earth !

 

[Digger]

Since when did sports commentators stop having opinions ? They also forecast results and are often wrong. I see it as part of their role. We live in a world where celebrities, politicians and high profile sportsmen are supposedly role models. Toss in cycling commentators and the idea becomes even sillier. I admired Vino's ride in the LBL last year but he will never be one of my favourite riders. I don't think Harmon's views will influence anyone else and you are right, Magnus Backstedt's commentary is excellent. Harmon has his pet hate's like most people. Sometimes he talks so much it is like white noise and easy to tune out of. The sober tones of Sean Kelly usually bring him back to earth !

As annoying as I find Harmon, he's great in comparison to Duffield. That guy was painful.

 

[Fatclimber]

Golden Career

What are the odds Vino reveals all his methods Hamilton style in his Biography?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/astana-unveils-2014-jersey

 

[nomapnocompass]

Zero, Vino is like Lance to the former soviet states. He won't rock the boat or break the Omerta.

 

[del1962]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15946/Report-Vinokourov-accuses-Astana-CFO-in-Liege-bribe-case-claims-he-hacked-his-email-to-set-him-up.aspx#ixzz2mbfPrVHx

He replied to the charges by claiming that Astana CFO Aidar Makhmetov hacked his email with the aim of provoking a corruption case against him. He claimed that the wealthy businessman wanted to cause serious problems for him and thus have him thrown him out of Astana.

Wow, some claim from vino in his LBL Bribe case, would his CFO really hack his e-mail account for this, is this Vino's latest version of the dog ate my homework.

 

[roundabout]

Only took him 2 years to think this one up

 

[robow7]

So when is 4th place better than 1st place:

Philippe Gilbert finished fourth in the 2010 Liège-Bastogne-Liège but would, in theory, be the winner if Vinokourov and Kolobnev were disqualified. The rider who finished third, Alejandro Valverde, subsequently lost all of his results for that period due to his prior involvement in Operacion Puerto.

 

[Vino4Ever]

hello cycle friends i thank you all for read and buy my new auto bible

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

So when is 4th place better than 1st place:

Philippe Gilbert finished fourth in the 2010 Liège-Bastogne-Liège but would, in theory, be the winner if Vinokourov and Kolobnev were disqualified. The rider who finished third, Alejandro Valverde, subsequently lost all of his results for that period due to his prior involvement in Operacion Puerto.

A nice, clean hero to give the win to

 

[notrolfsorensen]

A nice, clean hero to give the win to

Ha. No you have to give it to the first garmin or sky rider on the list, since these are the only teams who have monopoly on cleanliness. That would be Ryder Hesjedal in 12/13th. Deserves the win! Although Voeckler is in 10th/11th and he is french which is the same as clean.