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scribe said:I can understand the emphasis of the Giro for them, but dang, they looked unstoppable there. I figured it might carry over to here.
Ryo Hazuki said:in italy nobody cares about the tour. only the giro counts
The Hitch said:Really?
Thats good news.
Anyway, as for Liquigas, they forgot to bring Sagan.
Big GMaC said:Clean Basso?
Don't think so. The fact that Scarponi was able to stay with him on most of the Giro climbs must mean something. Also, take a rider like John Gadret: being French, I don't think he peaked for the Giro. Yet he did much better there than at the Tour. All of this indicates that the level at the Giro just wasn't as high as it is at the Tour. Which shouldn't be surprising.ttrider said:Yeah lets be honest Basso has done really well in comparison to Menchov last year, his real level is probably 3rd best and yet he totally failed last year due to fatigue
I think Basso with no Giro could have top 5
nesocip said:Im pretty confident to say that on this years tdf (talking about the route) with this years Giro form Basso would be easily 3rd. If not 2nd.
theyoungest said:Don't think so. The fact that Scarponi was able to stay with him on most of the Giro climbs must mean something. Also, take a rider like John Gadret: being French, I don't think he peaked for the Giro. Yet he did much better there than at the Tour. All of this indicates that the level at the Giro just wasn't as high as it is at the Tour. Which shouldn't be surprising.
scribe said:I think it goes to show the days of multiple GT winners in a season is well behind us, as team strength can't seem to carry over consistently enough (without broken down buses). I don't even see Contador risking it anymore.
Basso in top form can't outclimb any of the guys who are above him in GC right now. With the exception of Leipheimer, maybe.Ryo Hazuki said:Scarponi nearly won tirreno 2 years in a row against very strong pt competition. scarponi is an excellent climber. basso in shape would've done top 3 in tour this year. gadret also focussed on giro. because the course suited him much better he said at beginning of the year and look at vino. he seems very strong in giro and tour.
Wiggins and Sastre weren't great at the Giro either. Sastre is over the hill, I guess, and Wiggins has botched his preparation... or just isn't very good.LKing25 said:All of the main protagonists at the Giro have tanked at the Tour (Basso, Evans, Wiggins, Sastre). I think its just to much to ask to perform at both of the tours these days.
Ryo Hazuki said:and vino?
theyoungest said:Basso in top form can't outclimb any of the guys who are above him in GC right now. With the exception of Leipheimer, maybe.
He was with AC on the cobbles, made the breakaway to mende, attacked yesterday from 10 km to the finish and led today the yellow jersey group for 3 km on the last climb. Navarro and Tiralongo were the last domestiques to stay with Bertie in the Alps. If Vino destroys the field in the 3 remaining stages then he is surely doped. So far his performance is not extraordinary imo.Ryo Hazuki said:and vino?