Who are the current doping Directeur Sportifs?

[Benotti69]

Who are the current doping Directeur Sportifs?

Since some posters are worried Vaughters is taking far to much Flak, lets name those DS who have a history. Lets join the dots, name the doctors, the riders, the soigneurs etc if you feel the need.

1st a man who needs no introduction to the level of doping he has enabled.

Bruyneel.

 

[Spider1964]

Bjarne Riis

 

[hrotha]

Eusebio Unzue (Movistar) has been there since forever. He was there when Thomas Davy said Banesto had a teamwide doping program. Allegedly he sent Mancebo to Fuentes. Quite surprisingly, very little has stuck to him after all these years.

 

[Franklin]

The better question should be: who isn't. But here a few examples of shady managers:

Marc Madiot - FDJ (came clean, accused by Mentheour as dirty manager)
Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano - Euskatel (rider of Saiz, Salbuamol conviction, Fuentes)
John Lelangue - BMC (Flandis)
Jim Ochowitz - BMC (Flandis)
Andy Riis - BMC (Flandis)
Erik Zabel - Katusha (came clean)
Yvon Ledanois - Movistar (Client of "Dr malbuse")
Neil Stephens- Greenedge (Rider of Saiz, Festina confession)
Sean Yates - Sky (Caught as a rider, manager CSC and USPS)
Breukink- Rabo (Whereabout MR, other allegation, as a rider he rode for Saiz)

If you do the same for the doctors it becomes so farcical that it defeats any attempt at handwaving

Also amusing: Italian teams are hardly dirtier in the managament than Northwestern European teams. Anglosaxon teams (inc Australia) are as far as I can see the same or worse. Every team is loaded at the top with dopers. The hatchet in the "we are cleaner" theory

 

[roundabout]

Plausible deniability.

Refer riders to a coach and then that coach refers them to a doctor.

And Holczer is now current so he is the king of enabling. Whether by accident or deliberately.

 

[hrotha]

I'd separate the rider stuff from the DS stuff. I don't fault Riis too much for doping in the mid 90s, it's what he did at CSC that bothers me. Similarly, while Igor is shady as hell, for the purposes of this thread it might be better to list Madariaga, who was the team owner when Losa made Mayo, Landaluze or Zubeldia fly.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Pro Tour:

AG2R LA MONDIALE
Manager Vincent Lavenu was manager of dopey team Casino in the nineties, with dear old Daniele Tarsi as one of the team doctors. Some team staff are former riders of his teams. Others even rode with Kimmage at RMO, the clean team...

ASTANA PRO TEAM
MARTINELLI Giuseppe: Pantani
BONTEMPI Guido: Carrera/Conconi
STANGELJ Gorazd: Lampre/Rieti Raid 2002

Teamdoctors are Andrea Andreazzoli, Marco Pallini and Simone Uliari. First 2 are suspects in the Mantova investigation, the 3 is a protege of dear old Conconi.

BMC RACING TEAM
Lelangue/Rhys/Ochowicz
Nice trio...

Doctors:
Max Testa - Motorola [Armstrong], Mapei [tring tring],
Giovanni Ruffini - Mapei

I don't have to name that soigneur caught with some TB5000

And that's just 3 teams...

More to follow.

 

[sniper]

I'm currently quite confident Rabo at present is not endulging doping (in as far as they can monitor their riders of course).

Of course Breuking was doped to the gills as a rider (PDM affaire 1991, later ONCE) and of course he knew about doping as a DS of Rabo.
But in principle Rabo had no reason to fire Leinders if they weren't really striving to take the clean road. After all, Leinders wasn't really suspect prior to him leaving Rabo, was he? (Or was he ever explicitly implicated by Rasmussen?) So Rabo could have easily kept Leinders without anybody raising any eyebrows, right?

Another reason to trust Rabo at present is that they're riding like crap wih the exception of Sanchez.

Also, Rabobank is one of those sponsors that does have a lot to loose if its reputation were to get smothered by doping.

 

[Franklin]

After all, Leinders wasn't really suspect prior to him leaving Rabo, was he? (Or was he ever explicitly implicated by Rasmussen?) So Rabo could have easily kept Leinders without anybody raising any eyebrows, right?

First of; They tried to hold on to Leinders. He left long after the case which should have nailed him and his fellow MT members.

Geert was implicated in several ways.
First the undisputed problems:

1. The "carte blanche" he got on medical territory
2. The Jans Koerts testimony
3. In withholding the correct whereabouts of Rasmussenas a member of the management team.

Secondly his job, experience and carte blanch don't leave much room in the Human Plasma scandal.

Thirdly Boogerd implied towards Flandis that he had been using a transfusion during the TdF. The medical staff must have known if this was the case. This one is vehemently denied by Boogerd.

Another reason to trust Rabo at present is that they're riding like crap wih the exception of Sanchez

I'd say that is hard to say considering the mishap. The pre-season of Gesink was actually very good.

 

[sniper]

Thanks for the summary Franklin.
I guess it says it all that they tried to keep Leinders (I wasn't aware).

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

‏@TheRaceRadio
Problem w/ Leinders is he left Rabo in anger because he disagreed with new, clean, direction. Doesn't sound like a guy who embraces change

 

[BotanyBay]

And why should we not include Vaughters in the list? Because he chooses a PR strategy different than that of pretending that doping doesn't exist?

The list of clean team directors is fall smaller than the dirty ones. That's perhaps the biggest part of the problem. The sport is in dire need of a putsch.

 

[Ferminal]

Perhaps a more intriguing exercise would be to rank them.

Hard to beat Andersen.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Next three.

EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI
GONZALEZ DE GALDEANO ARANZABAL Alvaro
(***. Sports Director) : connected with the Blitz raid at the 2001 Giro, as a rider.
Quite some positives for this team, luckily for them the Spanish union is sometimes somewhat lenient...

FDJ-BIG MAT
Formerly le Groupement where Obree refused to chip in for their doping regiment.
Teamleader is Marc Madiot who worked with this clean folks:
* Fabio Bartalucci, now SKY
* Jef d'Hondt [good novelist ]
* Allain Gallopin, now chief at Radiocrap who lets his own son dope up
* Erwin Mentheour, the first 50% hct bust

And so on, and so on.

He is surrounded by ex - riders. Can't find their medical staff though.

GARMIN - SHARP
The one and only clean team, or?
Allen Lim?
Inigo San Millan? [Vitalicio/Once/Astana/Saunier Duval]

Good thing is they have some clearly outspoken anti - doping docs on the team.

 

[hrotha]

A correction: FDJ is not Le Groupement. Française des Jeux started as a new team in 1997 with Marc Madiot, Yvon Madiot and Alain Gallopin as DS's, while Le Groupement only existed in the first half of 1995 and its DS's were Vincent Lacressonière and Patrick Valcke.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

A correction: FDJ is not Le Groupement. Française des Jeux started as a new team in 1997 with Marc Madiot, Yvon Madiot and Alain Gallopin as DS's, while Le Groupement only existed in the first half of 1995 and its DS's were Vincent Lacressonière and Patrick Valcke.

You are completely right, memory failure, sorry about that.

Next, one of my favourite dirtteams:

KATUSHA TEAM
I am not even bothering commenting on the staff but a good summary would be a nice melting pot of Phonak, Gerolsteiner and T-Mobile. That should do the trick.

Their medical staff is the nicest:
Thomas Klimaschka - Phonak 2004/2006
Massimo Besnati - Mapei/Footon with Jose Ibarguren
Andrei Mikhailov - TVM 1998

Somehow the medical staff has dissapeared from their official site

No positives at this team of course...

Gonna watch la Vuelta now.