Who gets first Giro Break win?

Who gets the first break win?

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Jan 27, 2012
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Since I like riders who make races and take chances, here is a poll for the first break win in the Giro.

Yes, I have taken some liberties and cut the "field" down to ten riders. Tough luck, but feel free to scream and shout and claim a better rider.

So the rules. The win must come from a break established before the halfway point of the stage. If I can't find the information in the official ticker, it will be determined by dictatorship probably skewed by some Confused voting :D. Should none of the poll's choices win a stage, it will be best placed rider on any stage at the end. Early stage placement takes the win in case of a tie. The placement must come from a break. Anyway there are already too many rules, so lets get the names up.

If a Mod thinks this should go in the games section, by all means go ahead and shift it around, but I thought it could bring a bit of discussion to the RR section.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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RedheadDane said:
I'd vote Bak. But that doesn't seem to be an option!

yea, it works a bit like the democracy. There are choices, but you think they are all crap. So you can steal the pen and exit the poll without voting or nail down whoever you think will misuse the least tax dollars.
 
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I'm hoping one of Pirazzi's attacks pays off this year.

Should the pole not have a Vino option ... Quintana to solo to victory in Stage 8 and lock the GC up!
 
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BeagRigh said:
I'm hoping one of Pirazzi's attacks pays off this year.

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First real opportuibty for a break win seems to be stage 6, because I don't think the GC contenders will let any serious break get too far on stage 5.

My money is on EBH on stage 7:
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Dazed and Confused said:
First real opportuibty for a break win seems to be stage 6, because I don't think the GC contenders will let any serious break get too far on stage 5.

My money is on EBH on stage 7:
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You could well be right if a break takes that one (stage 7), but I reckon that'll be a reduced sprint (Orica and Giant should still have the legs for a chase at that point in the race); Matthews vs Mezgec for the win....

I will confess my vote was one of hope more that believe! Jackson Rodriguez, assuming he's racing, would be another one in that category. He was very active last year.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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BeagRigh said:
You could well be right if a break takes that one (stage 7), but I reckon that'll be a reduced sprint (Orica and Giant should still have the legs for a chase at that point in the race); Matthews vs Mezgec for the win....

I will confess my vote was one of hope more that believe! Jackson Rodriguez, assuming he's racing, would be another one in that category. He was very active last year.

EBH is also tied by working for Swift on some of these flattish stages, but I think there are a few possibilities that suits EBH in the first two weeks including stage 11. Depends on Swift's form I think. Also some of the climbers on the poll will probably have to wait until they have dropped enough time. But a guy like Hansen would be able to get away early in the race if he wants.
 
Jul 12, 2012
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Of those you have mentioned I will go with Hanson, he has shown good form so far so should have the legs.
 
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Dazed and Confused said:
First real opportuibty for a break win seems to be stage 6, because I don't think the GC contenders will let any serious break get too far on stage 5.

My money is on EBH on stage 7:
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Stage 6 is pretty darn flat, seems like Stage 7 might be the first opportunity for anyone to get away--agreed that EBH is a good bet because of the flat finish.

There really aren't nearly as many stages that scream "breakaway" this year. The flat stages are mostly flat, and the hilly stages are pretty difficult.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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VeloHuman said:
Snipped..

There really aren't nearly as many stages that scream "breakaway" this year. The flat stages are mostly flat, and the hilly stages are pretty difficult.

yep, very little sticks out. If somebody serious wants to get away in first two weeks, they might have to tank a stage early in the race.
 
Oct 26, 2010
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RedheadDane said:
I'd vote Bak. But that doesn't seem to be an option!
Great pick, awesome rider. I'll be cheering for him, Hansen, Andre Cardoso, Hermans, Amador or Felline as my breakaway bets. Hagen will be probably be working for somebody who doesn't stand a chance...
 
Jan 8, 2013
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Stage 5, Rubiano. He's done it before at the Giro, lumpy enough to make a selection, not lumpy enough to drain the breakaway, early enough in the GT to let him get away with it.


If not, stage 2, Kittel or Avila, not so much of a breakway, but echelon wind splits.
 
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Does it count if a rider (perhaps but not necessarily from Neri Sottoli) wins from a break and is then disqualified some days later?
 
Jan 27, 2012
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scholar said:
Does it count if a rider (perhaps but not necessarily from Neri Sottoli) wins from a break and is then disqualified some days later?

If the rider gets a time in the GC on the last day of the race, it counts as I will try and wrap up the "game" before the end of that day.

Rules, rules.
 
Sep 2, 2011
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jens_attacks said:
what's wrong with him? he might have flew too close to the sun i guess

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Honestly I suspect something like the Epstein-Barr virus or such. You know those kind of viruses that are almost without any symptoms but leave you terribly fatigued.
We're seeing such a different Moser it's almost ridiculous.

Or maybe he's just the Lovkvist-style guy, and 2012 was a fluke. No idea.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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First early break of the giro on the go.

Stage 2: No luck for break

2 Maarten Tjallingii (Belkin) +1:01
87 Andrea Fedi (Neri Sottoli) +1:01
181 Sander Armee (Lotto Belisol) +4:18
186 Jeffry Romero (Colombia) +4:37

Stage 3: No deal

81 Maarten Tjallingii (Belkin) +1:03
99 Yonder Godoy (Androni Giocattoli) +1:17
144 Miguel Angel Rubiano (Colombia) +2:00
149 Giorgio Cecchinel (Neri Sottoli) +2:20
188 Gert Dockx (Lotto Belisol) +5:28

Stage 4: No action

Neutralized stage

Stage 5: Not successful

Break after 15km or so
20 Ben Swift (Sky) +0:29
34 Elia Viviani (Cannondale) +0:49
78 Jonathan Monsalve (Neri Sottoli) +1:15
112 Tosh van der Sande (Lotto Belisol) +1:45
117 Tony Hurel (Europcar) +1:48
122 Bjorn Thurau (Europcar) +1:51
136 Marco Frapporti (Androni Giocattoli) +2:07
137 Miguel Rubiano (Colombia) +2:10
151 Tyler Farrar (Garmin) +3:26
154 Fabian Wegmann (Garmin) +3:40
180 Kenny Dehaes (Lotto Belisol) +5:35

Stage 6: Didn't work

Break after 10km or so.
77 Edoardo Zardini (Bardiani-CSF) +4:53
89 Rodolfo Torres (Colombia) +7:05
170 Andrea Fedi (Neri Sottoli) +16:38
173 Marco Bandiera (Androni Giocattoli) +16:49

Stage 7: No deal

First Botd after about 30km.
36 Jose Herrada (Movistar) +3:48
51 Bjorn Thurau (Europcar) +6:45
61 Winner Anacona (Lampre-Merida) +9:42
76 Robinson Chalapud (Colombia) +15:19
141 Nicola Boem (Bardiani-CSF) +27:24

After about 50km, new break composition.
51 Bjorn Thurau (Europcar) +6:45
61 Winner Anacona (Lampre-Merida) +9:42
76 Robinson Chalapud (Colombia) +15:19
141 Nicola Boem (Bardiani-CSF) +27:24
182 Nathan Hass (GRS) +38:59

Stage 8: Not successful

Break after 15km or so.
29 Mauro Finetto (Neri Sottoli) +3:28
70 Julien Berard (AG2R La Mondiale) +14:26
99 Julian Arredondo (Trek Factory Racing) +19:50
101 Carlos Quintero (Colombia) +20:17
103 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Sky) +20:25
120 Mattia Cattaneo (Lampre-Merida) +23:56
138 Eduard Vorganov (Katusha) +27:45
143 Perrig Quimeneur (Europcar) +28:47
147 Stefano Pirazzi (Bardiani-CSF) +29:26
173 Marco Bandiera (Androni Giocattoli) +38:19

Stage 9: 1. Weening, 2. Malacarne. Everybody else wheeled in.

Break after 40-50kms
Berard (ALM)
Bandiera, Rodriguez (AND)
Barbin (BAR)
Tanner (BEL)
Gatto (CAN)
Duque (COL)
Bono (LAM)
van der Sande (LTB)
Monsalve (NRI)
Weening (OGE)
Malacarne (EUC)
Vorganov (KAT)
Puccio (SKY)

Will do an update on the 2nd rest day.....
 
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Dazed and Confused said:
First early break of the giro on the go.

Stage 2: No luck for break

2 Maarten Tjallingii (Belkin) +1:01
87 Andrea Fedi (Neri Sottoli) +1:01
181 Sander Armee (Lotto Belisol) +4:18
186 Jeffry Romero (Colombia) +4:37

Stage 3: No deal

81 Maarten Tjallingii (Belkin) +1:03
99 Yonder Godoy (Androni Giocattoli) +1:17
144 Miguel Angel Rubiano (Colombia) +2:00
149 Giorgio Cecchinel (Neri Sottoli) +2:20
188 Gert Dockx (Lotto Belisol) +5:28

Stage 4: No action

Neutralized stage

Stage 5: Not successful

Break after 15km or so
20 Ben Swift (Sky) +0:29
34 Elia Viviani (Cannondale) +0:49
78 Jonathan Monsalve (Neri Sottoli) +1:15
112 Tosh van der Sande (Lotto Belisol) +1:45
117 Tony Hurel (Europcar) +1:48
122 Bjorn Thurau (Europcar) +1:51
136 Marco Frapporti (Androni Giocattoli) +2:07
137 Miguel Rubiano (Colombia) +2:10
151 Tyler Farrar (Garmin) +3:26
154 Fabian Wegmann (Garmin) +3:40
180 Kenny Dehaes (Lotto Belisol) +5:35

Stage 6: Didn't work

Break after 10km or so.
77 Edoardo Zardini (Bardiani-CSF) +4:53
89 Rodolfo Torres (Colombia) +7:05
170 Andrea Fedi (Neri Sottoli) +16:38
173 Marco Bandiera (Androni Giocattoli) +16:49

Stage 7: No deal

First Botd after about 30km.
36 Jose Herrada (Movistar) +3:48
51 Bjorn Thurau (Europcar) +6:45
61 Winner Anacona (Lampre-Merida) +9:42
76 Robinson Chalapud (Colombia) +15:19
141 Nicola Boem (Bardiani-CSF) +27:24

After about 50km, new break composition.
51 Bjorn Thurau (Europcar) +6:45
61 Winner Anacona (Lampre-Merida) +9:42
76 Robinson Chalapud (Colombia) +15:19
141 Nicola Boem (Bardiani-CSF) +27:24
182 Nathan Hass (GRS) +38:59

Stage 8: Not successful

Break after 15km or so.
29 Mauro Finetto (Neri Sottoli) +3:28
70 Julien Berard (AG2R La Mondiale) +14:26
99 Julian Arredondo (Trek Factory Racing) +19:50
101 Carlos Quintero (Colombia) +20:17
103 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Sky) +20:25
120 Mattia Cattaneo (Lampre-Merida) +23:56
138 Eduard Vorganov (Katusha) +27:45
143 Perrig Quimeneur (Europcar) +28:47
147 Stefano Pirazzi (Bardiani-CSF) +29:26
173 Marco Bandiera (Androni Giocattoli) +38:19

Stage 9: 1. Weening, 2. Malacarne. Everybody else wheeled in.

Break after 40-50kms
Berard (ALM)
Bandiera, Rodriguez (AND)
Barbin (BAR)
Tanner (BEL)
Gatto (CAN)
Duque (COL)
Bono (LAM)
van der Sande (LTB)
Monsalve (NRI)
Weening (OGE)
Malacarne (EUC)
Vorganov (KAT)
Puccio (SKY)

Will do an update on the 2nd rest day.....

Rest day II update. Sorry about the long quote.

So we finally got a successful break on the 9th day of racing. Yes, I know a break is unlikely during a TTT unless nature calls. Numbers....

This man

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hit the big gear and delivered a beautiful win on a MTF. Malacarne came 2nd and was also part of the original break.

Of course the clown who selected the options in the poll didn't included Weening or Malacarne and therefore the "competition" moves forward.
 

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