Rob Hatch

[tobydawq]

Well, that's what I ment by 'shopping back and forth', me neither having it all at one and same time

Btw, speaking Brian Holm. IMO both Holm and Thomas Bay are fading on sharpness, compared to previous years.
However, must credit the Danish Eurosport Premium team for stepping up on the giro with full coverage, in-depth pre race analysis, intellectual aspect by Bastian Emil, their man onsite Mielke with insight knowledge, also on the nerdy technical field, and then post race sum up.
Good commentators have the ability to interrupt themselves in e.g. intellectual dozing of local regions or own personal stories by seizing the moments, previously Bay&Holm have had better standards here. But must admit I've not had the time for watching every single stage, could in general be better of what I've witnessed, but remember some spring classics with pinnacle commentary from both guys.

But now a bit of a rollercoaster for both, just like in the days of David Duffield like someone mentioned, and some occasions with litterarily a rollercoaster experience, when Duffield commented on quirky downhill sections, the camera MC bikes not able to follow a JaJa or a Savoldelli in full downhill attack mode

And yes, noticed Holms fallout of Amirail's family name, and though a bit fading on Bay&Holm, still OK, and for the entire package still more than OK for me.
But as I stated, I've switched back and forth and just finds something better instead of using energy on grumpiness

I think Bay is perfectly sharp. Apart from when he says "modernet".

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Would be really hard to know when I'd need to have which one.

Kirby, Thomas Kristensen and the like have made that part really easy for me
But must say I'm quite surprised to read how insider guys as Jens Voigt or Blythe apparently tends to be, but seems I'm not missing anything here.

 

[RedheadDane]

Kirby, Thomas Kristensen and the like have made that part really easy for me

I meant instead of just having to keep track of "This race is TV2" or "This race is ES/Discovery+/GCN+", and just have both all the time (because, sometimes I need both at the same time), then having to keep track of when it's time to temparily sign of for Sporza, or Rai, or whatever French streaming services there are.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Its obvious that Bay puts up with some of Holm's bad takes, analysis, pronunciations etc. You can tell that's not how he feels, he just fails to state it since Holm is the 'expert' and they have a great relationship, so he just deals with the bad stuff without going into arguments.

Also, now I quite want to listen to a Duffield broadcast, because believe it or not, I actually used to enjoy Kirby a lot. Not that I don't anymore, just haven't listened to him for ages. Speaking of old commentators, used to watch a lot of these extended TdF highlights with Sherwin and Liggett, and watched almost the whole Tour, I think in 2011, listening to those two. So relaxing.

 

[zlev11]

From my experiences listening these guys it's quite simple.

Put Hatch in the classics because he is very good at quickly recognising race situations and identifying riders. You would no want Kirby calling the last 50km of Roubaix for instance

Put Kirby in the stage races because he is good at telling stories about culturing things not always related to cycling. Hatch is so dull when there is a boring Giro stage . Kirby can talk about local farming methods

Put Kirby on a space shuttle to the moon with no return trip

 

[tobydawq]

Put Kirby on a space shuttle to the moon with no return trip

These days, some commentators comment from home, so that probably wouldn't stop him.

 

[HelloDolly]

These days, some commentators comment from home, so that probably wouldn't stop him.

Kirby would be like that guy from Office Space . They sacked him and he still turned up. stopped paying him, they moved his stuff out of his office and he still turned up and then they moved his desk to a basement file storage in the dark and sure enough when someone turned on the light there he was

Kirby could be orbiting Mars and l still shouting " I'll be bound watch his count down the awnings" about the wrong named rider winning a race while he told us for the umpteen time how he felt "Si Clarke could have won it"

 

[red_flanders]

Orla looking...interesting...today. Bruises on the knees, trashy top. Personally prefer a classier look. They don't costume up the guys like they consistently do with her. I'm as much a dawg as the next guy, but...just don't need my cycling commentators to look like...well...I guess I'd better stop.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Orla looking...interesting...today. Bruises on the knees, trashy top. Personally prefer a classier look. They don't costume up the guys like they consistently do with her. I'm as much a dawg as the next guy, but...just don't need my cycling commentators to look like...well...I guess I'd better stop.

I actually like Orla as a presenter, she's very knowledgeable about the sport and is very passionate.
But sometimes I look at her and wonder what the hell is she wearing, she dresses like a teenager, not a married woman with kids in her mid 40's. Each to their own I guess, but sometimes it's a bit inappropriate for the audience they are katering for..

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Put Kirby on a space shuttle to the moon with no return trip

Can José Been be his copilot?

 

[ashhutch1997]

Can José Been be his copilot?

She's so boring

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

She's so boring

I was so glad she's no longer on Dutch eurosport, but my euphoria was short-lived as she was picked up by GCN.

 

[Netserk]

A serious presenter on TV wears suit and tie, whether male or female. Unless it's a gala occasion.

But I'm not particularly bothered by Orla's outfit. At least she's no worse than the usual standards of Blythe.

 

[fmk_RoI]

she dresses like a teenager, not a married woman with kids in her mid 40's.

Welcome to the nineteenth century, people!

 

[fmk_RoI]

Bruises on the knees, trashy top.

Could you be more clearer on what you're really saying here?

 

[fmk_RoI]

Put Kirby on a space shuttle to the moon with no return trip

He's a top 10- bestselling prize winning author now, with luck we're rid of him.

 

[RedheadDane]

Welcome to the nineteenth century, people!

Pretty sure in the nineteenth century, women dressed like this:

Spoiler

And also they weren't commentating sport on TV.

 

[red_flanders]

Could you be more clearer on what you're really saying here?

Yes. It's a trashy look. They/she, whoever, go out of their way to show her legs. Leaving bruises on her knees looks super low budget.

I like her enthusiasm and agree with above she's knowledgeable enough, and does a good job. Just don't know why they need to paint the woman up like that. I think it takes away from her credibility. I'm no prude, if she wants to hot it up out on the town I'm all for it, she's certainly an attractive woman (minus the voice/accent which is fingers on chalkboard to me). Just think the contrast between 3 guys in t-shirts and a woman dressed up in trashy outfits is weird. And sexist AF.

If it's working for other guys, great. Just find it a bit much. Tone it down 20% and I'm good.

 

[fmk_RoI]

And sexist AF.

Oh, you're being ironic!

 

[red_flanders]

Oh, you're being ironic!

Love to hear this explanation.

 

[kingjr]

Are you currently between wives by any chance, flanders?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Who even watches the breakway? I get enough expert analysis on this forum

 

[red_flanders]

Are you currently between wives by any chance, flanders?

You can do better.

 

[kingjr]

You can do better.

I was just wondering because you recently also commented (positively in that case) on the looks of someone on the side of the road(was it during LBL?). But yeah, it's none of my business really.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm getting curious, what was she wearing?
I'm assuming the bruises were just bruises, and nothing wrong with not having your knees covered.