rhubroma said:I just lump you all together, the forenoon fanatics.
patricknd said:my problem is with the whole strategy of shouting the opposition down to prevent their opinion from being heard by others. if you are right in your beliefs, why are you so afraid the opposing side having their say? i think both sides are guilty in this, and unfortunately it seems more and more to be the accepted norm. the loudest shouter wins the argument.
Thoughtforfood said:Let me also be clear, I voted for Obama because I knew he wasn't a radical, and that has turned out to be correct. All of the talk of him changing our flag to red with a sickle and hammer is just stupid. Flat out STUPIDITY. In fact, to brand him a "Socialist" is to not only completely misunderstand what a Socialist really is, but is also historically ignorant of our economic history.
Personally, I want to live in a democracy with a mixed economic system more heavily weighted to socialist ideals. There are plenty of countries in Europe that are much more to my liking, but I would have to leave my family to live there, and to me, there are some things more important than the government...that is unless we as a country elect Sarah Palin, and then I will honestly look to move to Canada as a compromise. Any country stupid enough to allow a dimwitted mouth breathing moron to be chief executive is a country not worth living in...wait, I forgot about Bush......well, she is even dumber than that.
marinoni said:Exactly! I don't know the situation in other countries but in Canada more and more Universities have banned pro-Israeli and anti-abortion speakers and clubs. Recently, Anne Coulter cancelled a speaking engagement at the University of Ottawa after being chased off by an angry mob. I have nothing good to say about her or anyone else on the political right but I also wouldnt be caught dead aligning myself with the intolerant, hate-filled social engineers that make up the left these days.
marinoni said:Exactly! I don't know the situation in other countries but in Canada more and more Universities have banned pro-Israeli and anti-abortion speakers and clubs. Recently, Anne Coulter cancelled a speaking engagement at the University of Ottawa after being chased off by an angry mob. I have nothing good to say about her or anyone else on the political right but I also wouldnt be caught dead aligning myself with the intolerant, hate-filled social engineers that make up the left these days.
marinoni said:but I also wouldnt be caught dead aligning myself with the intolerant, hate-filled social engineers that make up the left these days.
patricknd said:it's censorship any way you slice it. seems to me to be prevalent on internet forums as well. only the "in crowd" has free rein to express an opinion.
BroDeal said:Poor Anne Coulter, who is most famous for saying, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity." People complain about her spreading her hate, and they are the hate filled social engineers.
Anne Coulter is free to give her speeches in front of the Klan, Neo-Nazis, white christian separatists, and Texans, who will appreciate her views..
BroDeal said:Awwww, sad Patty D has got his panties in a twist because he is not one of the cool kids. Not even pretty fly for a white guy. Perhaps a barbed wite tattoo might help.
patricknd said:it's censorship any way you slice it. seems to me to be prevalent on internet forums as well. only the "in crowd" has free rein to express an opinion.
marinoni said:I agree with the censorship part but I don't get what you mean about the "in crowd". Everybody seems to have pretty free rein around here.
marinoni said:I agree with the censorship part but I don't get what you mean about the "in crowd". Everybody seems to have pretty free rein around here.
marinoni said:I agree with the censorship part but I don't get what you mean about the "in crowd". Everybody seems to have pretty free rein around here.
buckwheat said:Who are you alluding to?
It sound like you're either listening to Gingrich or watching Faux News too much.
Hugh Januss said:He feels he is unfairly picked on when people refuse to embrace his belief that Lance Armstrone is God.
patricknd said:you are a liar, i never said anything of the kind. another attempt at censorship by personal attack. thanks again for proving my point. like marinoni, i believe that free speech is all important. put me on ignore if you don't like what i have to say.
marinoni said:I can't stand Newt and I don't get Fox. I had it a couple years ago and watched to see if it was as bad as I'd heard. It was. The thing that upsets me is that I mostly agree with liberal policies. I believe, for example, that good affordable health care is a basic human right. But I see examples every day of the far left shouting down any opinion not in line with theirs and I just can't get behind that. If you havent figured it out yet, I am pretty passionate about free speech and despise people who mess with it.
buckwheat said:The far left is shouting people down? Where?
<What part of my post about the universities and public schools didnt you understand?
You are aware of what the right was doing at health care town halls and Sarah Palin speeches. You know, bringing guns and engaging in racist hate speech.
>That's pretty reprehensible behaviour. It doesnt make what the far left is doing any more acceptable.
Damn, it would be nice if we could keep things at the shouting down level. The problem with the left is that they have been cowed by the right while they, the left have a large majority.
>I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you're saying that there's too much extremism on both sides then I agree totally.
Another specialty of the right is the phony outrage, something paddy is exhibiting and that it appears you are leaning to.
patricknd said:i was trying to get a rise and it worked like i knew it would. i was just proving a point.
Hugh Januss said:Well then what is your bullshit about "in crowd" all about. Are you just not able to accept the fact that you are an asshat and people don't like you?
Your point would be stronger if you ever did anything but biatch about anybody who says anything that you don't like.
marinoni said:If you think the threat to free speech is phony then I guess I don't know what to say to you.
Ok I completely messed up that post- my computer skills are not great. Hope you can make sense of it. And thanks for keeping it civil.
