Young time trialists, take 3.

[roundabout]

Who is most likely to become the next dominant time trialist

 

[maltiv]

You made it! Congratulations.

 

[ramjambunath]

Take 4?

 

[roundabout]

Yeah, I've had my blonde moment.

Can we got to the point now?

 

[theyoungest]

Luke Durbridge. Boasson Hagen is of course already very good, but I doubt he'll develop into a real challenger for Tony M.

 

[Ferminal]

Durbridge, he's more of a big engine than a pursuiter. Anything reasonably long and flat should be his forte. Already his times would have him as top10 TTer in the senior ranks. Maybe in 3 years he will be close to Martin and Cancellara.

 

[Ruudz0r]

I also go for Durbridge, Bob Jungels could also have a shot but he is still very young. I think G could also develop further as a timetrialist but dont think his focus will be on TT.

 

[maltiv]

Luke Durbridge. Boasson Hagen is of course already very good, but I doubt he'll develop into a real challenger for Tony M.

This year he admitted that he hasn't really done much training on his TT bike. Had he actually trained for it, who knows...In 2008 for example he beat Tony Martin a few times but since then Martin has specialized in the discipline whilst EBH doesn't even train for it.

Personally, I think Durbridge will be challenging Tony Martin in 3-4 years or so.

 

[roundabout]

Yes, there's always a 'danger' than some of the people on the list might become tempted to try for GC or other races.

How big is Durbridge anyway?

Edit: seems to be 187/80ish. Probably unlikely to be 'distracted' by calls to lose weight.

 

[theyoungest]

This year he admitted that he hasn't really done much training on his TT bike. Had he actually trained for it, who knows...In 2008 for example he beat Tony Martin a few times but since then Martin has specialized in the discipline whilst EBH doesn't even train for it.

That's what I mean, if he were to completely focus on time trialing he might do it, but he doubt he will. Look at Kittel, sucks in the time trials since he's become a sprinter.

Tony Martin himself has improved immensely, so results from 2008 don't mean that much to me.

 

[kurtinsc]

Phinney.

In the Vuelta 47km ITT he already managed a 5th place finish, behind Martin, Froome, Wiggins and Spartacus.

He's not there yet, but he's already got a result showing he's moving into the neighborhood. It will be interesting to see how his ITT's stack up this year if he can stay relatively healthy all season.

 

[theyoungest]

Phinney.

In the Vuelta 47km ITT he already managed a 5th place finish, behind Martin, Froome, Wiggins and Spartacus.

He's not there yet, but he's already got a result showing he's moving into the neighborhood. It will be interesting to see how his ITT's stack up this year if he can stay relatively healthy all season.

Don't you think Bobridge's 5th at the Worlds is a little more impressive in that regard?

 

[miguelvazpinto]

Nelson Oliveira is also gonna be one of the dominant timetrialists.

 

[Anonymous]

Durbrige and Dowsett for me as the only two likely to specialise as time triallists.

Dowsett has had some pretty positive results this year and is maybe a year or two ahead.

 

[sublimit]

Durbridge looks a step ahead for a teenager so I would vote for him, Hepburn not as quick but a classy looking tester but might end up as a sprinter that can do a reasonable TT. Dowsett has raw talent and maybe another Geraint Thomas in the making.

 

[The Hitch]

Michal Kwiatkowski.

Nah probably Durbridge. Also Bobridge. Australia have some good ones coming up. I think Malori and EBH have a chance as well though

 

[kurtinsc]

Don't you think Bobridge's 5th at the Worlds is a little more impressive in that regard?

It is impressive, but it's also the only ITT result of note he had for the season so it's tougher to put it in context. Other then that he was 15th in a 32km ITT in the TDS, 6th in an average field in 14 km in Post Denmark Rundt, and 2nd in the Australian national ITT.

Phinney was 2nd in 3.5 km in Romandie's prologue, 4th in Österreich-Rundfahrt over 30km, 1st in Eneco over 5.7km, 8th in Eneco over 14km, 5th in Vuelta over 47km and 15th in worlds over 46km.

If Talansky weren't a GC guy in the making and focused solely on ITT's, he'd be in the discussion too. 7th in Paris-Nice over 27km, 5th in C-I over 7km, 5th in Pais Vasco over 24km, 6th in Romandie over 20km, 16th over 47km in Vuelta, 16th in WC at 46km.

Those two and Bobridge have all put together scattered impressive ITT results for youngsters.

 

[theyoungest]

If Talansky weren't a GC guy in the making and focused solely on ITT's, he'd be in the discussion too. 7th in Paris-Nice over 27km, 5th in C-I over 7km, 5th in Pais Vasco over 24km, 6th in Romandie over 20km, 16th over 47km in Vuelta, 16th in WC at 46km.

Somehow I think of him more as a climber who knows how to suffer his way through a time trial, than a future challenger for podium spots in TTs.

 

[maltiv]

Phinney was 2nd in 3.5 km in Romandie's prologue, 4th in Österreich-Rundfahrt over 30km, 1st in Eneco over 5.7km, 8th in Eneco over 14km, 5th in Vuelta over 47km and 15th in worlds over 46km.

Also 97th in the Tour de Romandie TT and 40th or so in the Tour of Oman TT. In the American Championships he was 7th, beaten by guys like Ben King, Matthew Busche and Danny Pate.

Talansky has impressed me much more in the long TT's this season.

 

[kurtinsc]

Also 97th in the Tour de Romandie TT and 40th or so in the Tour of Oman TT. In the American Championships he was 7th, beaten by guys like Ben King, Matthew Busche and Danny Pate.

Talansky has impressed me much more in the long TT's this season.

Well, the injury context counts for much of that.

He knee was messed up in the pre-season and he barely got any training in. Came in to Oman (a hilly ITT) having not had any training in the off-season. Then he crashed and got a concussion in late February, again disrupting his training. He then injured his knee again in Catalunya. I think Romandie was his first race back from that knee injury, and he crashed in the longer ITT at the very beginning (and missed the time cut the final day). And while he did just manage 7th in the USA ITT this year, he also won it the previous season.

His consistency (especially in the longer distances) does seem to be lacking. He crashes a lot and has a lot of days where he "didn't feel right" on the bike.

Considering all those negatives though, his season was pretty darn good for a first year guy. If the crashes continue then he'll never get all that far. But if it was just a 1 year crash/injury bug, he's got a lot of potential for great ITT results going forward.

Talansky was very consistent this year though. He's probably going to be more of a GC type rider though, so I don't think he has the chance to become a truly dominant ITT rider.

 

[Parrulo]

Nelson Oliveira is also gonna be one of the dominant timetrialists.

not even close. . . watch his time trial vanish next year as he tries to learn how to climb

 

[The Hitch]

If we are doing results, Kwiatkowski did beat Dowsett (and Peraud as well) at a 20k tt in " Tour du Poitou Charentes et de la Vienne", (or something like that).

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=21273

And losing to Westra by miliseconds while beating Chavannel, Grabsch and Grivko at the 15k tt in De Panne was also impressive.

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=20092

For a 20 year old.

 

[roundabout]

It seems that Kwiatkowski still has longer time trials to master. But that's the trait he shares with more than 1 person on the list of options.

 

[c&cfan]

This year he admitted that he hasn't really done much training on his TT bike. Had he actually trained for it, who knows...In 2008 for example he beat Tony Martin a few times but since then Martin has specialized in the discipline whilst EBH doesn't even train for it.

Personally, I think Durbridge will be challenging Tony Martin in 3-4 years or so.

i am really close to find your addresses (all of you guys) and kick your *sses if you guys stop seeing cancellara as the top (or very close) TT dog.

considered yourselves warned.

 

[Eric8-A]

My vote's for Bobridge. He really stepped up with his 5th in the Worlds this year.

I can't really say much for Durbridge since I haven't followed him closely and only know him for winning the U23 WTTC.

As for Talasnsky, he'll probably develop into a faily good time trialist. I see him mostly as the type of rider that's good on the climbs and won't lose too much time in a time trial. I'm sure he's surprised himself with his TT results given that he's said that time trials aren't his specialty.